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  • #16
    Re: ECW: The 2001 WWF buyout.


    Hall Of Fame

    Class of 2001

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    • #17
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      Hardcore TV 6-8-2001

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      Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 01-25-2012, 08:49 PM.

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      • #18
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        You Do Not Want To Miss The Next ECW Pay Per View!

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        • #19
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          Hardcore TV 6-15-2001

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          • #20
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            Don't miss Hostile City Showdown 2K1 live next week

            Main event for the ECW World Championship
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            Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 01-25-2012, 08:46 PM.

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            • #21
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              Really enjoying this, Shinobi. The pictures are bit excessive, but I'm probably alone in that mindset. I think in a lot of ways you've captured the Heyman-mindset. Like on the last show how Bigelow/Candido segues through a chaotic set of circumstances right into the main event. That's how it used to happen in ECW. If anything, my complaint would be that there's not as much WWE-influence as there should be. I also thought about something. Can you imagine watching TV on the Internet in 2001? Something to ponder. I can't imagine it would have worked as well for people then. Excited to read HCS2k1!
              We ARE pro-wrestling.

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              • #22
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                You aren't alone. I'm going to be cutting back on the pic's for sure. I don't want to use too many Youtube vids either, only when necessary. I really appreciate your feedback TMMW. I'm hoping to keep improving. I just jumped into this at first, then I read a few other fan fic threads(including your WCW thread), and was blown away at what was possible with it. I am going to concentrate on some good fueds, and try to write up some great matches.

                I'm not really trying to go for any kind of WWE/F influence quite yet. I do plan to in the future, but not for some time. My problem is that I'm pretty old school. I'm going for more of an old school ECW feel, but with the WWE budget. Let me tell you right now though, I'm not going to be real strict with the reality of things. Like a mini jumbotron in the ECW Arena for instance? Come on. I don't think so, but it is fun to play around with since it is Fiction after all. I'm definitely going to stretch a few things, but I'm not going to over do anything, I promise. For example, the thread is in June of 2001 at the moment, with Dean Malenko as an active performer. If I remember correctly Malenko was retired at that point, or soon after.

                I have been ispired by TNEW, The Cuban Wrestling Crisis, and the WCW fan fic threads to start getting into some of the newer wrestling. As I get more familiar with the newer performers, I will gradually work them into the thread. At the moment though, I just have not seen enough pro wrestling after 2000/2001. I am going through, and watching it though, so the more I see, the more I'll incorporate into this fed.

                I hope with this thread it will work both ways. Hopefully I will inspire some of you guys to go back, and watch some of that classic underrated ECW stuff that nobody has seen, the same way you have inspired me to get into modern wrestling.

                Absolutely keep the feedback coming guys. I'm open to any criticism because it is the only way to improve really. One of my main goals with this thread is to improve as a writer in general. I've had a lot of oppurtunities open up for me in journalism recently, and I want to continue to advance in that area. Without a college education I know there is only so far I can go. One of the only ways for me to really improve is for someone to drop in, and say "Hey, your doing this wrong.", or "Do it like this."

                So don't hold back. I'm a big boy, I can take it, and It will make me better.
                Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 01-28-2012, 09:28 PM.

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                • #23
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                  I hear ya. Keep up the good work!
                  We ARE pro-wrestling.

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                  • #24
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                    Interview with Vince Mcmahon from the Wall Street Journal. June 2001 issue.



                    WSJ: Vince, your purchase of the ECW has been scrutinized recently due to the poor financial shape of the company at the time. How has the decision worked out for the WWF's bottom line up to this point.

                    Vince: It has been very tough. I'm not going to lie, or sugarcoat things, the ECW was almost to the point of no return when we bought them. To this day, I still have not made a single penny of profit from the company, but we have made huge strides in attracting new fans, as well as keeping the diehards that the company was, and is known for attracting.

                    The surprisingly high attendance for live events, with the higher than expected PPV revenues from the 2 show's we have done has been what has kept the ECW afloat so far, but as far as turning a profit, we still may be a long ways away from the company making any significant money. The amount of debt that the company was in will take a bit more time to work down. We have stacked the ECW roster with some excellent performers that come with a hefty pricetag, but their presence in the company has boosted interest enough to bring fans out to the live shows, and get them to buy PPV's, home videos, and merchandise. We have worked down the companies debt to a respectfull figure, and we have managed to pay our performers what was earned to them from the original owners of the company, but no, as of yet we have not made a single penny from the ECW. We have a strong team of management, and some of the WWF's best accountants keeping the ECW running, and we plan to keep trucking with it until we finally get into the black.

                    So far the fans, and the interest is there, but the money is just not. I am very happy with the response that the ECW has gotten from their fans, and I think the company is very close to breaking through, and becoming profitable.

                    WSJ: The last ECW PPV "Hardcore Heaven" stirred a bunch of controversy, and brought a bunch of negative attention to the brand from people who thought the Violence, and nudity was just too much. In recent weeks, More critisizm has poored in about the overall nature of the ECW brand, and the WWF's decision to be associated with such a product. How much control, and influence does the WWF have over what we see on ECW programming?

                    Vince: Look, with the ECW, we aren't trying to draw in teenaged fans, or sponsers like Stridex, and M&M's, we want to appeal to a completely different demographic than what the WWF does normally. We are trying to reach out to the 18-35 demographic with the ECW. My accountants, and my money are about the only influence the WWF is going to have on the ECW, other than that, I have given complete creative control to Paul Hayman. Hayman is the ECW. For me to take the creative control away from him would be to strip the heart out of the ECW, and that is something that the fans of the company would not go for. ECW fans are not the same as the average WWF fan. There are a lot of things you just can not get over them. The ECW will be run as its own entity. It is my company, but in order for it to work the way we want it to, We(the WWF) are going to have to just step back, and let Paul do his thing.

                    WSJ: What strides have been made to get the ECW back on cable television?

                    Vince: We have been scouring networks for a deal. We thought we were close to getting them back on TNN, but the deal fell through. We were in negotiations with several other companies, including the Fox family of networks. We were close to inking a deal with them for the ECW to air on either FX, or The Fox Sports network, but ulitmately we did not like the restrictions the network was wanting to inforce on the brand. We want to keep the ECW an R rated wrestling company, and we have not found a channell yet that is willing to take that risk. We will continue to search for a cable deal for the ECW, but it has to be on our terms. Getting a cable deal for the ECW only to have to water them down to a PG rating would be taking a huge step backward for the company, and would alienate a majority of the fans that have kept the company afloat thus far.

                    WSJ: What about the WWF's new website? Fans have complained about the ECW programming available on the website that the technology is just not there yet for the internet to be a viable medium to view ECW programming. What is the WWF doing to make the ECW available to its fans until they return to cable?

                    Vince: We have been working very hard to improve our online experience for the ECW. Improvements have been made, but the quality is just not there. We do not, and will not charge anything for the ECW's Hardcore TV episodes that are available to view on our website. The WWF has just inked a long term deal with former distributer of ECW home videos, RF Video. RF Video has been liscensed by the WWF to exclusively distribute all ECW Home Video's, as well as their classic events. We will invest into RF Video to get the ECW Hardcore TV episodes into the homes of wrestling fans all across America. Until we can get Hardcore TV back on cable, fans can sign up for RF Video's mail order program, which will keep each weeks episode rolling into your mailbox on a weekly basis for one flat monthly rate. Very similar to a magazine subscription. Even after we ink a cable deal, RF video will be retained as the ECW's exclusive distributor of Home Video programming.

                    WSJ: You made some pretty bold statements about the UFC back in February. Their PPV's have not done as well as their new owners have expected. Do you feel like the new UFC still has as much potential to one day rival the WWF in PPV revenues?

                    Vince: Absolutely. That sport has an appeal to young men like none other. To be honest I have a few deep regrets about not purchasing the UFC myself when they were up for sale in the end of last year. I really think that with proper management, the UFC will be huge in the US eventually. I'm not sure if Zuffa has the entertainment experience to get it up off of the ground, but they definitely have the money, and the bussiness savy to make it happen. Whether or not they do is to be seen, but the sport has potential that can not be denied. I deeply regret not purchasing the UFC myself from SEG. After what we went throught with the XFL this year, and the money we lost, I definitely look back with regrets, and wish that I would have done things differently. I think we could have done something special with the UFC given our track record in the PPV market, and our experience with live entertainment. It was an oppurtunity that we missed out on though, and I wish Zuffa the best of luck, but I think we have something special in the ECW, and I hope to be able to keep some of those 18-35 year olds from jumping ship from Pro Wrestling to UFC when/if the sport finally does take off on a national level. It is going to be something that is hard to compete with for us in the WWF, but I think we can with the ECW if done the proper way.
                    Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 01-28-2012, 09:40 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Re: ECW: The 2001 WWF buyout.

                      Pro Wrestling Illustrated

                      2002 Pro Wrestling Almanac
                      WWF ppv results for 2001(Feb-May):

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                      Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 02-11-2012, 07:43 PM.

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                      • #26
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                        Hostile City Showdown- 6/16/2001

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                        Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 02-16-2012, 10:42 PM.

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                        • #27
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                          WWF Raw results for June 18th 2001.

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                          WWF Smackdown results for June, 21st 2001
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                          Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 02-12-2012, 12:26 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Re: ECW: The 2001 WWF buyout.

                            Easily your best show ever. You killed it!
                            We ARE pro-wrestling.

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                            • #29
                              Re: ECW: The 2001 WWF buyout.

                              Originally posted by TMMW View Post
                              Easily your best show ever. You killed it!
                              Hell yeah! Thanks TMMW! Thanks for reading.

                              I've been doing a bit of studying, and research since the last few posts. Some of those lists, and guides in the OP Fed Thread are actually quite helpfull, especially the link to Holzehammer's site for movesets, and explanations.

                              I've had a blast going through, and watching a bunch of wrestling here in the past week or so. I've really enjoyed seeing a bunch of stuff from different era's, including some 2006-2007 ECW, and even most of the WWF's 2001 stuff. Seems like they really wanted to make a statement about the Attitude era with that storyline. I'm going to be putting my own little spin on the angle where Paul Hayman gets to be Paul Hayman, and the ECW gets treated the way they should have.

                              This thread is about to get fun due to the timeline that it is in where the Invasion is about to finally kicks off in the WWF.

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                              • #30
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                                Hardcore TV 6-22-2001

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                                Last edited by ShinobiMusashi; 02-16-2012, 10:43 PM.

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