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    I've seen The Godfather movies, The Rainmaker, and Jack from that list and..well... the first two Godfathers are good.

    I do find the first two Godfather movies to be referenced as much as any movie in pop culture (maybe behind only Wizard of Oz?), but I would rather use the references than sit down and watch them both. I thought they were great, but not all that rewatchable.

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    Coppola was on my shortlist but didn't make the top 15. I too find the Godfather films to be overrated. Not seen Apocalypse Now. Dracula is very good. Not enough to make the list.

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    I'd meant to get a list in for this but forgot about it.

    I need to see more Kurosawa. He is one of those elite names - like Fellini, Bergman, Tarkovsky, Kubrick.

    Coppola would definitely have made my list. Not many can compete with his 4-in-a-row of Godfather, Conversation, Godfather II and Apocalypse Now. I've not seen too much of the rest of his resume, but peak alone would get him on there.

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    24. Tony Scott



    Critical Tops
    Crimson Tide
    True Romance
    Unstoppable
    Enemy of the State

    Critical Flops
    Top Gun
    Taking of Pelham 123
    Days of Thunder
    The Last Boyscout
    Man on Fire
    Domino


    Box Office
    Lifetime Gross Total: $1,092,613,610
    Average: $68,288,351
    Opening Gross Average: $14,410,499


    Highest Grossing Movies
    Top Gun ($179,800,601)
    Beverly Hills Cop 2 ($153,665,036)
    Enemy of the State ($111,549,836)

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    The critics can suck my balls. Man on Fire was AWESOME.

    Tony Scott definitely made my list. Crimson Tide, True Romance, and Man on Fire were all terrific movies. Frankly I enjoyed Days of Thunder and Top Gun as well, and The Last Boy Scout was a solid watch too.

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    I don't know that there is a director out there with a bigger divide in opinion on their movies between critics and audiences than Scott.

    When I first started making my list I thought he was a lock for #1 or #2 on my list because I just love his style and the type of movie he takes on and subsequently makes. They are fun , the dialogue and tone are always on and it's some of the most palatable and rewatchable work from any director.

    He ended up at #4 for me - Enemy of the State and Man on Fire are two of my favorite and most watched movies of all time. I'll never begin to understand the hate from critics for Man on Fire , it was probably the over the top violence that at the time wasn't as widespread and main stream. The movie is a fucking treasure though and IMO the peak Tony Scott/Denzel mashup of their many. And all of their connections have been successful IMO - perhaps not all masterpieces but I think both are at their best when they are together.

    Top Gun and it's place in pop culture history speaks for itself , it's not my favorite by I respect it. The Last Boy Scout was great fun , Taking of Pelham 123 well poorly received was just a fun action romp. And all these are his "poorer" movies.

    You add to the resume classics and well made movies such as Crimson Tide and True Romance and he has it all on his resume. I think he's the best Scott brother and his suicide is heartbreaking - I would of loved to see what he did going forward. Especially after Action has been revitalized post John Wick and such.

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    I do have to add one thing though. True Lies was directed by James Cameron, not Tony Scott.

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    I'm so confused on what the difference between Tops and Flops are and what's being used for them.


    I'm also going to leave this here:

    Spoiler

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Real LT View Post
    I do have to add one thing though. True Lies was directed by James Cameron, not Tony Scott.
    Yeah I didn't think it sounded right when I was reading of Rotten Tomatoes , I thought that was Cameron as well. I'll change it for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by CK View Post
    I'm so confused on what the difference between Tops and Flops are and what's being used for them.


    I'm also going to leave this here:

    Spoiler

    I'm using the Rotten Tomato critics as of now , anything below 60% (or rotten) by critics is what I'm considering a critical flop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    Yeah I didn't think it sounded right when I was reading of Rotten Tomatoes , I thought that was Cameron as well. I'll change it for sure.




    I'm using the Rotten Tomato critics as of now , anything below 60% (or rotten) by critics is what I'm considering a critical flop.
    I have to use my words carefully or it'll sound like I'm complaining to some. It's in fact not worth it...I'll just go about my business and shake my head over here when some of the flops come up.

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    Tony Scott didn't enter my radar. I've seen Man on Fire and Taking of Pelham 123, both mediocre action flicks in my eyes. I like the original Taking... more.

    I'm surprised Top Gun is considered a flop. Not seen it myself, but everyone I know who's seen that film worships it and considers it must watch, so a below 60% surprises me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CK View Post
    I have to use my words carefully or it'll sound like I'm complaining to some. It's in fact not worth it...I'll just go about my business and shake my head over here when some of the flops come up.
    I'm not sure what you're saying , but just because they are critical flops don't mean I think they are bad , or even the majority thinks they are bad. I would say a lot of my personal favorites aren't tops for the critics for many directors. I generally think critics and their opinions suck because they completely fail to take into account the audience the movie is made for.

    Top Gun is at like 57% for critics , but the audience score is all the way up at 83% and it's easily Scott's most successful movie at the box office - one that launced his career. I was just putting different perspectives in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    Tony Scott didn't enter my radar. I've seen Man on Fire and Taking of Pelham 123, both mediocre action flicks in my eyes. I like the original Taking... more.

    I'm surprised Top Gun is considered a flop. Not seen it myself, but everyone I know who's seen that film worships it and considers it must watch, so a below 60% surprises me.
    You bite your tongue about Man on Fire sir.

    It's only considered a flop by critics , who hate fun in movies. Audiences love it and paid to see it.

    I really need to figure out something different to go buy.

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    I could watch Crimson Tide once a month and not get tired of it. Great fun.

    I must see Man on Fire one of these days.

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    23. George Lucas



    Critical Highs
    - American Graffiti
    - Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
    - THX 1138
    - Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith

    Critical Lows
    - Star Wars: Episode I - A Phantom Menace


    Box Office Highs (Adjusted for Inflation)
    - Star Wars ($1,583,483,200}
    - Star Wars: Episode I ($802,874,300)
    - American Graffiti ($584,200,000)


    Box Office Breakdown (Unadjusted)
    - Lifetime Gross Total: $1,743,927,001
    - Average: $290,654,500
    - Opening Gross Average: $84,428,208


    Awards and Nominations
    - 2005 AFI Lifetime Achievement Award
    - 1992 Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award
    - 1974 Oscar Nomination for Best Director (American Graffiti)
    - 1978 Oscar Nomination for Best Director (Star Wars)
    - 1974 Golden Globe Nomination for Best Director
    - 1978 Golden Globe Nomination for Best Director

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    22. Tim Burton



    Critical Highs
    - Ed Wood
    - Edward Scissorhands
    - Pee-Wees Big Adventure
    - Frankenweenie
    - Sweeney Todd
    - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
    - Corpse Bride
    - Beetlejuice
    - Batman Returns
    - Big Fish

    Critical Lows
    - Dark Shadows
    - Alice in Wonderland
    - Planet of the Apes
    - Mars Attacks


    Top Box Office Draws (Adjusted)
    - Batman ($559,666,600)
    - Alice in Wonderland ($373,705,500)
    - Batman Returns ($348,813,000)

    Bottom of the Box Office (Adjusted)
    - Ed Wood ($12,521,400)
    - Big Eyes ($15,821,800)
    - Frankenweenie ($38,984,600)

    Overall Box Office (Unadjusted)
    Lifetime Gross Total: $1,840,232,958
    Lifetime Average: $102,235,164
    Opening Gross Average: $32,948,753


    Awards and Nominations
    - 2013 Oscar Nomination for Best Animated Feature (Frankenweenie)
    - 2006 Nomination for Best Animation Feature (Corpse Bride)
    - 2008 Golden Globe Nomination for Best Director (Sweeney Todd)

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    Tim Burton didn't make my list , but I will say that IMO he is one of the more fascinating directors out there and probably ever. He has movies I absolutely love like Beetlejuice , Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood - all three of those I've watched numerous times in my life and will definitely be watching til I kick the bucket.

    He also has movies like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory that he bastardized. I have no clue how that movie was received so well by critics and ended up Certified Fresh on RT - fuck that movie with every fiber of anyone who's ever watched a movie. Honestly Burton might of been a late cut if not for that movie - but that knocks him completely out of contention.

    I know a lot of people love a number of his other movies like Sweeney Todd , Pee Wee , Big Fish and all of his animated stuff but I'm pretty indifferent on all of them and don't really care if I were to ever watch them again.

    I also have no real opinion on his take on the Batmans. I think I watched them as a kid and have no real interest in going back now.

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    George Lucas is right about where he needs to be on this list, given he did direct the first Star Wars film as well as American Graffiti, so I can live with that.

    Him ahead of Coppola is just plain wrong though. They're not even in the same league.

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    I admit I overrated the fuck of out of Lucas. Star Wars has had the big of an impact on me, and that was his baby. He was also very important to the Indiana Jones franchise.

    Main problem with Coppola is that a lot of his movies don't have a lot of re-watch value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Real LT View Post
    Main problem with Coppola is that a lot of his movies don't have a lot of re-watch value.
    I don't disagree , but I'd watch Godfather 1 & 2 every day for the next thirty years before I watched another 10 minutes of a Star Wars movie. As far as Lucas and his directing credits go I can't think of a single movie I really love.

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    Tim Burton has a very distinctive style but it's not one I'm very fond of, so he wasn't even considered for my list. Neither was Lucas because I've never seen Star Wars nor any of his other films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    Tim Burton has a very distinctive style but it's not one I'm very fond of, so he wasn't even considered for my list. Neither was Lucas because I've never seen Star Wars nor any of his other films.
    Which Tim Burton have you seen? I'm asking because I generally agree with not being a fan of his style , whatever one wants to label it.

    Loving Edward Scissorhands is probably more of a product of me being introduced as a child , but Beetlejuice IMO is awesome no matter what. Great performance from Keaton and really the whole cast and enough comedy to take me out of the fact it's a "Burton" movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    I don't disagree , but I'd watch Godfather 1 & 2 every day for the next thirty years before I watched another 10 minutes of a Star Wars movie. As far as Lucas and his directing credits go I can't think of a single movie I really love.
    I can plant my ass on the couch and watch Star Wars any given time.

    Something like Apocalypse Now takes a pretty big effort from me.

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    Tim Burton is the 1st one from my list. Big Fish is one of my all-time favorite movies. Ed Wood, Beetlejuice, Sweeney Todd, Both Batman, Edward Scissorhands, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, & Mars Attacks are all great too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    Which Tim Burton have you seen? I'm asking because I generally agree with not being a fan of his style , whatever one wants to label it.
    Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Batman, Mars Attacks, Sleepy Hollow and Sweeney Todd. Sleepy Hollow is the only one I liked because of the horror story/setting, but I wouldn't watch it again. Also seen bits and pieces of Charlie and Alice in Wonderland, and they don't appeal to me.

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