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    I just came in this thread to post this!!! I'm mad at myself for not thinking of it when you guys were teaming. To think that I thought StarTouch was clever
    If you're initials were the other way around we could be team SLUT - instead it'd be team LSUT which isn't as effective.

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    I just want to reassure too that I wasn't attacking you @Oncall , your grievances are your grievances and I got nothing but love for you.

    I also have grievances. Like the fact @SM? thinks he can wrestle another match and isn't retiring after the beating I gave him. And the fact we aren't teaming anymore after my name change and can't be Team SMUT.
    That really would have been a better name.
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    It's worth mentioning here, very important, that the work you put into this game is subjective. Meaning that more isn't always better and every thing will be liked by some and not by others.

    But yeah, I think we got an issue as Chaos Kid has pointed out, probably better than any of us. I quoted him below.

    Quote Originally Posted by LS View Post
    The Royal Rumble match is a special beast because of the multiple choice voting and because we want to fill the 30 spots - it's all in the fun though, and Dazz ended up winning (he posted at least one or two promos). Everyone in the other matches promo'd too, except maybe Rad. I don't think what you're saying was a big problem at the Rumble or even a big issue in general. We encourage participation but try to keep things relaxed - I'm perfectly fine with everyone posting a couple of meaningful promos with a lot of content rather than 20 throwaway promos. Some will vote on who posted the best promo, some will vote based on who they want to see pick up a win...I don't think we're at the point where we need to enforce any specific parameters. At the end of the day it's about finding ways to keep the different storylines moving, regardless of wins and losses
    I understand. I'm just of the mind that games are fun because of structure. Structure is important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oncall View Post
    Thanks so much MDS, you don't know how nice it is to have someone in here not treat me like a raving lunatic.
    All good man, you made some good points and I wanted to second them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    I wasn't going to mention this on the boards as respect to PW and this game, but I've spoken to Mad Dog and LS with my concerns, you see I'm new here and didnt want to stand on anyone toes or rock the boat. This is not me being bitter than I lost, its a game so I dont mind winning or losing as long as the game is played fair, there were rounds during the rumble that certain people were getting through even though they haven't said a word in the Royal rumble promo thread and with fed where I was told that promos and talk in the general discussion would be the factors in winning and losing matches. So when I started seeing people getting votes for doing nothing in this contest I realized that it was more of a popularity contest that an actual promo contest, it was then I knew that if no one knows you, you got no chance of winning whatever you write in your promos because someone might be really liked on the boards is against you.

    I read all the promos and looked at the chat when i was voting for matches, but can you really say the same with the other voters, I think the if the person hasn't said a word then all votes for that person are voided...no work no win....
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    Saying the only Rad didn't promo was incorrect in fact there is more than 8 ppl that didn't promo but got votes, there were players that actually went though rounds without promos

    HR zero promo – 23 votes (3 rounds)
    Sm - zero promos – 20 votes (2 rounds)
    Raven – zero promo – 13 votes (2 rounds)
    ShinobiMusashi – zero promo – 7 votes (2 rounds)
    Very good stuff from Chaos Kid here. Respectfully, I think it's safe to say that there is indeed a problem here.

    Now, the game is fun and I enjoy playing it. I would like to continue playing it. But clearly there's an issue here.

    If the issue goes on the game will probably still be fun. But if we found a way to fix the issue it would be funner I think.
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    I feel as if there's quite a few bullets being shot my way for winning the Rumble, but just cutting one promo right before the Rumble began.

    I understand the complaint, I really do, but the thing is...............


    I'M NOT GIVING UP MY SHOT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dazz View Post
    I feel as if there's quite a few bullets being shot my way for winning the Rumble, but just cutting one promo right before the Rumble began.

    I understand the complaint, I really do, but the thing is...............


    I'M NOT GIVING UP MY SHOT!
    I wouldn't say that. I think you participated. You had a story line going on. Legit.

    And it worked. You won.
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    Don't give it up. Aaron wants an easy night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dazz View Post
    I feel as if there's quite a few bullets being shot my way for winning the Rumble, but just cutting one promo right before the Rumble began.

    I understand the complaint, I really do, but the thing is...............


    I'M NOT GIVING UP MY SHOT!
    personally I dont think anyone mention you in a negative terms I think the conversation is more about people getting votes without doing promos, as far as im concerned you did a promo and you won...bottoms line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    personally I dont think anyone mention you in a negative terms I think the conversation is more about people getting votes without doing promos, as far as im concerned you did a promo and you won...bottoms line
    Everyone who won promoed though - that's the point I keep trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS View Post
    Everyone who won promoed though - that's the point I keep trying to make.
    I think the point i was trying to make that certain people qualified in the Rumble rounds even though they didn't promo, while other guys did promo and got knocked out by those people

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    Don't get mad at them. Extend your venom to the posters who didn't vote for them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    I think the point i was trying to make that certain people qualified in the Rumble rounds even though they didn't promo, while other guys did promo and got knocked out by those people
    That happened to me in round IV of the Rumble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncall View Post
    I've asked plenty but let's keep it simple.

    Why do you have such an issue with me wanting hard work to be rewarded instead of the rewards going to average work done by popular people?

    Why do you have an issue with me raising questions, one in particular about how every poll was public except for the MITB one.
    I don't know if you were staying in kayfabe or not but it was a little annoying to see you get mad about me "no showing" the tag title match when I had so many matches over the past few PPVs. I was focusing on the tag match but it was all ongoing on the weekdays and I have limited access to the site, especially given they still have not fixed the ad problem on the mobile devices. I don't think it's cool to jump in someone's match in a gauntlet and hog up the spotlight which is why I really don't post in character in any thread except something where I am in it! Since Summerslam I have been in a lot of matches and I am really appreciative of the support but there's only so much free time I can spend on these matches! Sorry.

    I do agree with you guys though, wish for more participation. The more participation, the better it all becomes!

    What is totally weak sauce is bringing up relevance to the forums in this. So weak. I am completely different in The Colosseum than what I am in The Sports Empire and other forums. My character is so different, I don't take into account anyone's standing in other forums when voting in this. I judge strictly off of what you do in this and where your character is going. Getting called "annoying" over some fun silly promo stuff like this is pretty mood killing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ness View Post
    I think the promos are just a way for "the boys" to pop themselves while we're waiting for the matches to begin. In fact, when I was facing djm a few years back I even mentioned in one of them that it doesn't matter as the people have already decided who they were going to vote for. I can see why it can bother some people if the work they put in doesn't translate to votes. These events are a lot like writing Fan Fic. I could (and have) spent six months writing what I thought were quality, engaging shows. And no one could have given a shit. And someone else comes along and just puts a placeholder thread in place and gets tons of love even if they never come back to contribute or do very little. It does come across at times like what's the point then... and I hope people don't have that same mindset here.

    Oddly enough ever since this got started I've neglected Fan Fic and put my efforts here. Pre-Coliseum I don't know what my popularity around here was. Normally I'd be out in the first round of KOTF. But I was usually facing guys like Matt or Champ, so maybe they were just tough battles. So I don't know if promos I've done have helped me win matches. When I first started doing them against Lony, I won sure, but not by a huge margin. Hell, it may have been the worst turnout for a PW WM Main event!

    Sometimes hard work has helped me... sometimes it hasn't changed anything. These events are simply a popularity contest and promos are just something fun we do to pass time between shows and to put some meat behind why the matches are happening. You have to keep in mind that in the past we didn't use to do as many. It was just WM (the only one we really did promos for) and KOTF/TTKOTF and I don't think those even had much in the way of promos seeing as when KOTF became Summerslam in 2015 a few people criticized me for doing promos on my opponent because it wasn't something we did in the past.

    Basically what I'm saying is there's only 10-12 of us regulars here that do this, so I hope nobody is being discouraged from participating due to the current discussion.
    I love this whole concept by LS man, looking back I am kinda ashamed of how personal I went at ORaider27 at times years ago and I was readying to throw down with the women's forum The good old days of your late teens, early 20's But that's what happens when you got a lot of time and at times, just feel frustrated with people or groups who are at your throat on a site you spend daily upon.

    Now I really don't care altogether. It's more fun playing a character than to go "personal" anyhow, much more creative freedom.

    Seriously big credit to LS for doing this. Regardless, I am having loads of fun with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dazz View Post
    I feel as if there's quite a few bullets being shot my way for winning the Rumble, but just cutting one promo right before the Rumble began.

    I understand the complaint, I really do, but the thing is...............


    I'M NOT GIVING UP MY SHOT!
    You Dazz Superkick'd your president off the ropes. HAVE YOU NO SHAME!

    I was going for the trifecta at PW WM, I was destined to be Triple H godlike with all of the air time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    No one said you're a bad guy for wanting promos. No one's said anything close to that. You've just got some kinda weird victim complex.

    It's good to be open about things, but pick your battles. Endlessly complaining about something from five years ago that no one can do anything about doesn't do you any favours. I can see why it bothers you, but it's time to move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    I think the point i was trying to make that certain people qualified in the Rumble rounds even though they didn't promo, while other guys did promo and got knocked out by those people
    Not my fault. I even told people not to vote for me.
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    I wanna make a special point of saying that nobody blames posters who got by without any effort.

    It's more of a flaw in the system that my self and others have a problem with.

    Another preface I wanna add is that LS does a great job organizing this. I simply wanna bring this conversation to the forefront. Definitely don't mean any disrespect to her or the competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by LS View Post
    Everyone who won promoed though - that's the point I keep trying to make.
    It's not really that people didn't win who should have.

    It's more that people got elimated in the rumble and tag match. They lost to people who didn't participate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    I think the point i was trying to make that certain people qualified in the Rumble rounds even though they didn't promo, while other guys did promo and got knocked out by those people
    Like right here.
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    That happened to me in round IV of the Rumble.
    And here.
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    Lawrence made it through multiple rounds of the Rumble...doesn't really prove your point honestly!

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    So we are supposed to give participation medals now or something? Do you guys have any actual suggestions to make it better?

    Or are we just supposed to vote for the person who had more time to promo , even if the content was hot garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    So we are supposed to give participation medals now or something? Do you guys have any actual suggestions to make it better?

    Or are we just supposed to vote for the person who had more time to promo , even if the content was hot garbage?
    at least vote for someone who actually did a promo instead of not doing a promo might be a start

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    So we are supposed to give participation medals now or something? Do you guys have any actual suggestions to make it better?

    Or are we just supposed to vote for the person who had more time to promo , even if the content was hot garbage?
    I mentioned a mandatory minimum amount of posts to qualify for a win. I think that's really all that can be done. Would go a long way though.
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    I dunno guys... putting rules on fun seems to have the opposite effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS View Post
    Lawrence made it through multiple rounds of the Rumble...doesn't really prove your point honestly!
    That's true, and in the early rounds people like SM, Ness, Mad Dog, Jake and Jason had all cut promos- then round 4 I was eliminated by people who had no participation at all.

    I'll admit I was probably the most surprised about how far I got in the Rumble than anyone else. I've been participating in this long enough now to know that having a name around here normally wins you things, however I participated throughout the Rumble- whether it was good content or hot garbage, which made me think that's why I was doing so well. To then get eliminated by people who did nothing sure sucked and was a shit way to go out.

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    I can see why someone would think putting rules on fun has the opposite effect. But in reality, it's probably the exact opposite, where a level playing field with clear cut objectives are the whole point.

    When your'e a kid playing touch football (we've all done this.) you think it's fun to pick up the ball and run to the endzone when play is dead.

    But when you actually do it, people are just mildly annoyed and it's kind of shallow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence View Post
    That's true, and in the early rounds people like SM, Ness, Mad Dog, Jake and Jason had all cut promos- then round 4 I was eliminated by people who had no participation at all.

    I'll admit I was probably the most surprised about how far I got in the Rumble than anyone else. I've been participating in this long enough now to know that having a name around here normally wins you things, however I participated throughout the Rumble- whether it was good content or hot garbage, which made me think that's why I was doing so well. To then get eliminated by people who did nothing sure sucked and was a shit way to go out.
    And that's what it is here. Yeah sure, our winners were often people who participated, but our losers were often people who participated and got eliminated by people who didn't.
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    So people should just get rewarded for showing up? Again that takes some of the fun out of this and putting an arbitrary number on the amount of promo's one has to do is stupid and I guarantee will just discourage people from voting all together.

    I sure as fuck ain't going to vote for someone who's promo's I didn't enjoy because of some stupid rule that says I have to if I'd rather vote for the person I enjoy posting with over the course of a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    So people should just get rewarded for showing up? Again that takes some of the fun out of this and putting an arbitrary number on the amount of promo's one has to do is stupid and I guarantee will just discourage people from voting all together.

    I sure as fuck ain't going to vote for someone who's promo's I didn't enjoy because of some stupid rule that says I have to if I'd rather vote for the person I enjoy posting with over the course of a year.
    If you dont like a promo just dont vote for the guy, but its doesn't mean you have to vote for someone that has done something in the past but nothing on the current card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UT View Post
    So people should just get rewarded for showing up? Again that takes some of the fun out of this and putting an arbitrary number on the amount of promo's one has to do is stupid and I guarantee will just discourage people from voting all together.

    I sure as fuck ain't going to vote for someone who's promo's I didn't enjoy because of some stupid rule that says I have to if I'd rather vote for the person I enjoy posting with over the course of a year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Kid View Post
    If you dont like a promo just dont vote for the guy, but its doesn't mean you have to vote for someone that has done something in the past but nothing on the current card.
    Im more for eligibility requirements ..

    I think the last thing you wanna get into is who somebody should vote for. Even a "null vote" would be fine.

    It's more about people not participating and still winning. That's the problem. We have to focus on that.


    I mean think about it. They won't mind. If theyminded they would participate.
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