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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncall View Post
    Such terrible invasions of privacy, rumours going around that Kaitlyn has had some nude photos leaked as well.
    Not rumors anymore. Pics of her, Maria, & Summer Rae have unfortunately been released.

    Rumors now are that Stephanie, Roman, Ziggler, AND THE FREAKING UNDERTAKER have some shit out there. I could buy most to a point, but when you get to the Undertaker, I just can't buy any of it.

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    This, the crap with Del Rio, the wellness policy stuff, her lack of maturity - and here I was thinking she wasn't born from carnival folk.

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    Well, at least we now know where New Day got the clap from..

    Just kidding.

    This doesn't look good for Paige. The desecration of the NXT Womens Championship is probably more than enough of a reason to cut ties with her, which, let's face it, they've more than likely been looking for for a while now.
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    Oh my god...

    Even Del Rio's figure is boring.

    I really don't understand the desire to record the sex, but now I'm just thinking they're wrestlers so perhaps they critique each other like they do with matches. Psychology and working the body part. So far I've been able to stay away from whatever has leaked despite morbid curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nazzer View Post
    It's interesting how illegal activity is usually a step or two ahead of legal activity in terms of science/technical ability. A few examples are hacking and performance enhancing drugs. The people designing security systems and keeping data and such secure always seem so easily hacked, perhaps they are employing the wrong people to keep things secure. Another example is performance enhancing drugs. The testing for drugs and analytical chemistry procedures for detecting them is always a year or two behind the illegal activity.
    I think it's bureaucracy mostly. The government employs geniuses that know everything there is to know about computers, technology, security, etc...but they have rules. They have laws and guidelines to follow. They have to work with what they're given.

    Hackers don't have those restrictions and as long as they cover their tracks they can get away with pretty much anything.

    I could talk for days about how badly the government has fucked up the internet and personal security but it essentially boils down to a bunch of old fucks that have no idea what the internet is capable of and want control over everything.

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    I have a question, Is Woods and Maddox the new greatest tag team in wwe history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nazzer View Post
    It's interesting how illegal activity is usually a step or two ahead of legal activity in terms of science/technical ability. A few examples are hacking and performance enhancing drugs. The people designing security systems and keeping data and such secure always seem so easily hacked, perhaps they are employing the wrong people to keep things secure. Another example is performance enhancing drugs. The testing for drugs and analytical chemistry procedures for detecting them is always a year or two behind the illegal activity.
    Actually, most of the exploits used to hack researchers know about for years before they were used. Same with illegal performance enhancing drugs. The problem is that to prevent hacks and doping you need to spend money on protection, either better coders, better servers and an active science reviewer who can read up constantly. These things are generally the first things on a chopping block since if something works 99 percent of the time, then that is good enough. Over time, people forget that we are willing ignoring things, such as blood doping via transfusion, or errors in code that lead to things buffer overrun and so we then limit what we see as possible. In these cases, the way most hackers really get the passwords and is to send spoofed emails saying that your password needs to be changed. They look 100% real, and many now even use the actual webpages themselves, with a small script modification that sends them a copy of the forms you fill out. Or they get your password to some other place using social hacking, where you call several places and see how much information you can get from one place, then use that information at a second place, to get some more, until you have enough to successfully answer a person's security questions on a site that will display the password. Then you use that password, on their email site and most of the time it works.

    We known about SQL injections, buffer overrun and social hacking for years though and they are not new. We also know that updated lists of passwords and email combinations exist on the deepweb and even now the regular web for billions of emails. But until someone famous suffers no one really cares.


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    E stocks looks to close flat. Given the sympathetic response Paige got and no real damage, E would be stupid now to fire her.

    WWE does have a morality clause in the contracts though.

    Woods will be off TV tonight most likely since they are in NYC but early reports are saying neither will be punished. And really, we would have read about it now if Paige was to be. I think E is going to just keep off of the air until her contract is up.


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    Better have about 20 second tape delay, because NYC crowds can be brutal. There will be chants about this.

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    Yeah, Woods and possibly all of New Day may be off the air tonight to prevent this. I expect heavy muting and live editing during the women's matches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimzon View Post
    Not rumors anymore. Pics of her, Maria, & Summer Rae have unfortunately been released.

    Rumors now are that Stephanie, Roman, Ziggler, AND THE FREAKING UNDERTAKER have some shit out there. I could buy most to a point, but when you get to the Undertaker, I just can't buy any of it.
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    Maybe somebody from some parents advocate corporation is leaking the videos, so that companies don't buy into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimzon View Post
    Not rumors anymore. Pics of her, Maria, & Summer Rae have unfortunately been released.

    Rumors now are that Stephanie, Roman, Ziggler, AND THE FREAKING UNDERTAKER have some shit out there. I could buy most to a point, but when you get to the Undertaker, I just can't buy any of it.
    I'll be really surprised if these two had something out there. Lets say Steph did had some pics out, will she be written off TV? Maybe this is a good thing....Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimzon View Post
    Not rumors anymore. Pics of her, Maria, & Summer Rae have unfortunately been released.

    Rumors now are that Stephanie, Roman, Ziggler, AND THE FREAKING UNDERTAKER have some shit out there. I could buy most to a point, but when you get to the Undertaker, I just can't buy any of it.
    The rumors are just that, rumors. The original poster of the Paige stuff what was being released. He followed through with the video dump and other stuff he had. The Steph stuff is nipple slips and shit that has been around forever. Likewise the Asuka leaks are also old stuff from her modeling career.

    Natalya's stuff has not leaked yet and should be next from the WWE leaks. Big E was also listed as someone the leaker has video of. Big E and Summer denied stuff existed yesterday.

    Summer is taking option B for this and just claiming that is some other blonde girl. Also given the video is still up on xvideo, I am thinking she is right, since WWE's lawyers would have nuked that shit so fast if not.

    Maria has had shit leak before and well, already posted naked pictures nationally so her stuff may not be new at all.

    Did not look for Kaitlyn's stuff.

    Now the rest is coming out Paige is fine. No way Vince is going to do a mass firing of his female staff. Curious to see if Lynch gets pushed though, as people have literally put money up for stuff of her, believe 1000 was offered, and nothing appears.

    Paige did confirm the stuff was hers and from her phone. For those keeping track, believe it is five videos. Three with guys, one solo and one with the NXT title.

    Saraya's tweet makes it sound like they are not taking this sitting down and will be hunting down who posted the videos and suing. I assume they will be suing those hosting the videos as well to get them off of sites like Pornhub and xvideo.


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    So many computers now have aids because of this leak. LOL

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    And for those who did not see this coming...

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    My last say on the scandal surrounding my daughter:I have just spoken to her over Facebook and I am worried for her mental health or worse ffs. World, get a grip, she has not killed anyone [or] robbed anyone.She was having sex in a private situation between consulting adults and then has been betrayed by some low-lifes.As her dad I urge people to back off as I say I am very worried for her. It will be no good backing her when its too late like many other celebrities who have left us.
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    I cannot lose my little girl! The whole family has taken so much s***, being blasted from all angles. But none of this is worth it.There is a broken soul here. I am on the verge of breaking over this and I cannot deal with anymore. We are crushed.I really don't know how much more I can take, well done to those that thought this was a great idea, well done to those tagging us in pics and videos.You have done what you wanted to do, let's hope to God [that] you don't take from me one of my most treasured gifts. Sat with my husband, he is sobbing, he can't even speak. I'm losing everything I love, the business we love will kill us, it seems
    I am curious if WWE will try to spin this into a positive thing. Getting Paige, Woods, Seth and others who had hacked stuff posted together and discussing the impact of making such pictures and videos and what they wish they knew now. Would be edger than Vince likes to do now, but tossing in warnings and being vague about the details of the media itself, even airing it only on his network would bring so much positive publicity as no one really covered shit like this outside of a news stories repeating the same shallow talking points and short interviews of canned answers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    And for those who did not see this coming...

    Ricky Knight:



    Saraya Knight:



    I am curious if WWE will try to spin this into a positive thing. Getting Paige, Woods, Seth and others who had hacked stuff posted together and discussing the impact of making such pictures and videos and what they wish they knew now. Would be edger than Vince likes to do now, but tossing in warnings and being vague about the details of the media itself, even airing it only on his network would bring so much positive publicity as no one really covered shit like this outside of a news stories repeating the same shallow talking points and short interviews of canned answers.
    Unfortunately, I fear that her parents posting stuff like that will only embolden the trolls who are on the attack. They're looking for a reaction and most will lack any empathy. Really grim stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dose View Post
    So many computers now have aids because of this leak. LOL
    What do you mean? The websites that host them are full of viruses?
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    I've been away all weekend and missed a lot of this in progress, and here's what I'll say.

    - They can't, shouldn't, and probably won't fire Paige. You fire people to quell a controversy, not to stoke the flames of it. Firing her would open up a whole new can of worms that WWE does not want to open. Quite frankly, it's a blessing that she's already off TV, because you can just keep her off TV while all of this blows over.

    - Paige is the victim here. Stealing somebody's private property, whether it's hacking them or walking up and snatching a cheeseburger out of their hand, is stealing. No matter how unsavory the content, it's theft, plain and simple. It's not illegal to have sex, nor is it illegal to film it for your own personal use.

    - I see the consternation about the NXT title stuff, and I think that's fair. I don't think you can do anything about it in this instance as far as discipline, but a team meeting where you tell the crew "hey, dumbasses, don't use our title belts or our merch in your sex tapes" might not be a bad idea. That doesn't change the fact that it's theft and Paige is the victim, but still, it seems like a reasonable request/edict for an employer to give.

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    Yeah that part is pretty dicey. How do you discipline someone for something they did on a video that never should have seen the light of day? I get that it's their property but it happened in a private video that was illegally stolen. Paige was victimized here, and firing her for anything she did(not illegal in its own right) would be a super shitty thing to do. It sends a really bad message. "Hey, we know you were victimized here and what happened was horrific, but we're gonna make you feel even shittier now. I know we never should have known about it but well, we do, so it doesn't really matter that it happened in your private sex tape. Sorry."

    Can't really do that to a girl who has to already be going through hell. I hate that this shit happens to these women, these assholes stealing their privacy away from them. There's no reason for it and it is in no way their fault. They have every right to take whatever photo or video they want and have an expectation of privacy. Those scumbags who steal them are the only bad guys in the whole thing.
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    I wonder if they'll cancel the movie they're making about her. They shouldn't. If they acknowledge the sex tape and her troubled life, the movie would be much more interesting.

    She was a child star, not ready for fame, and now she's getting her life back on track.

    Now they have to cast Xavier Woods, Brad Maddox, and Alberto Del Rio.

    They could say how many within the industry just used her for sex. But now she's found someone who loves her for her (Alberto Del Rio).

    Just make her a complete victim!

    Then WWE could do the overcome her demons to win the woman's championship storyline.

    Or... They could cancel the movie and release her.

    Because she might do another self-destructive thing.

    She seems like she's bipolar. And since I was diagnosed bipolar by a psychiatrist, I'm qualified to diagnose that too.
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    I think she was pushed into the limelight too fast when she was too young. She is only 24. That is really what makes a lot of this so tough, is really, she was just a kid basically when all these mistakes were made. Went into WWE at 19, champ at 21. Serious injury at 23.

    I really think she should just go home and recover. Her parents know what it is like to be young and stupid and should be able to guide her back and make sure she is safe.

    I really wish the Paige movie would focus on the stories of Ricky and Saraya more. Saraya was an abused street kid and Ricky a violent thug. Their lives make the mistakes Paige has made look trivial in comparison. Their story is one of hitting rock bottom then slowing getting clean and fighting tooth and nail to make a career for themselves and to make sure their kids would have better lives than they did. Paige's WWE story is the end of a much larger story that gets overlooked of the creation of a new new wrestling family who truly had all odds against them.


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    Saraya just pulled out of an event. I'm guessing Paige will be home with her and dad.

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    They have every right to take whatever photo or video they want and have an expectation of privacy.
    In an ideal world yes. But this ain't an ideal world. Privacy in the digital world dosen't currently exist. Hackers are ahead of the security curve.

    If I were into making homemade porn, I would use Mistress's suggestion and use VHS for that purpose. Then lock the tapes in a safe when I wasn't watching him, at least that way they have to physically break into my house to get my homemade porn stash rather than just hacking my computer or cell phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistress View Post
    Saraya just pulled out of an event. I'm guessing Paige will be home with her and dad.
    Hum, Ricky took the week off as well. I really hope she is going home. This can still get really ugly really fast.

    And yeah LT, that has to be the way to go. One copy, that you control and you can destroy. Outside of hacking, revenge porn is a real thing as well, as Seth learned, and many girls are victims of as revenge porn you also get paid for. Revenge porn is a multimillion dollar industry fueled by girls talked into making sex videos that then get sold as soon as they break up. In no small amount of cases the girls end up killing themselves over it.

    The assumption of privacy on a phone is ludicrous at best given easy they are to hack. Also the ease of copying the files makes it so one copy quickly becomes many copies and some of those copies making their way to the internet.


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