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    Default If Superstars Retired at 40...

    Let's just imagine a world where wrestling superstars retire at 40. There's a mythical, plentiful pension fund which pays them $1M a year for 25 years until true retirement age, meaning they never have to keep wrestling or coming back (at least as in-ring competitors, anyway) after the big 4-0.

    Consider then how the business would look if these superstars, legends, champions and big names had or will retire from in-ring competition for good at the age of 40:

    Name Year Turned 40
    Gorgeous George 1955
    Lou Thesz 1956
    Buddy Rogers 1961
    Bobo Brazil 1964
    Pat O'Connor 1964
    Verne Gagne 1966
    The Sheik 1966
    Killer Kowalski 1966
    Antonino Rocca 1967
    Gene Kiniski 1968
    Fritz Von Erich 1969
    Mad Dog Vachon 1969
    Nick Bockwinkel 1974
    Bruno Sammartino 1975
    Stan Stasiak 1977
    George 'The Animal' Steele 1977
    Giant Baba 1978
    Abdullah the Butcher 1981
    Dory Funk Jnr 1981
    Jack Brisco 1981
    The Iron Sheik 1982
    Ivan Koloff 1982
    Pedro Morales 1982
    Antonio Inoki 1983
    Harley Race 1983
    'Superstar' Billy Graham 1983
    Terry Funk 1984
    Dusty Rhodes 1985
    Andre the Giant 1986
    Bruiser Brody 1986
    Dick Murdoch 1986
    Sgt. Slaughter 1988
    Ric Flair 1989
    Bob Backlund 1989
    Stan Hansen 1989
    Jerry Lawler 1989
    Larry Zybysko 1991
    Randy Savage 1992
    Ricky Steamboat 1993
    Hulk Hogan 1993
    Roddy Piper 1994
    Vader 1995
    Rick Martel 1996
    Diamond Dallas Page 1996
    Tommy Rich 1996
    Bret Hart 1997
    Curt Hennig 1998
    Ron Simmons 1998
    Lex Luger 1998
    Scott Hall 1998
    Arn Anderson 1998
    Rick Rude 1998
    Sting 1999
    Warrior 1999
    Kevin Nash 1999
    Sid 2000
    Scott Steiner 2002
    Steve Austin 2004
    Booker T 2005
    The Undertaker 2005
    Mick Foley 2005
    Shawn Michaels 2005
    John Bradshaw Layfield 2006
    Goldberg 2006
    Kane 2007
    Jeff Jarrett 2007
    Kurt Angle 2008
    Batista 2009
    Triple H 2009
    Chris Jericho 2010
    Rob Van Dam 2010
    Mark Henry 2011
    Big Show 2012
    The Rock 2012
    The Great Khali 2012
    Edge 2013
    Christian 2013
    Rey Mysterio 2014
    John Cena 2017
    Alberto Del Rio 2017
    AJ Styles 2017
    Brock Lesnar 2017
    Jeff Hardy 2017

    If these older guys don't hang on to the top spot, or outlive their use-by date, would the business be better or worse? Would we even have a business? Does age matter, or is it purely the performance that matters? Discuss.
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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    40 is an interesting age to choose for this. I don't know if this still holds true, but back in the day it seemed like a pro wrestler didn't really hit his peak prime (I guess meaning a combination of physical abilities plus mentally getting the business, psychology, etc.) until his early-to-mid 30s. But maybe that's partly a result of many guys getting into pro wrestling back in the day as a second career or fallback?

    On first pass, initial thoughts were maybe we as fans and he as a wrestler would have be better off if Bret did retire in 1997.

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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    Probably would be more of them alive. Traveling up and down the road, sleeping in motels and eating fast food 3 times a day probably starts to take it's toll on you by 40, not to mention all the steroids trying to keep up with the younger cats, and whatever drugs/pain pills they take on top of that. Says a lot about pro wrestling culture/fans for a guy like Shane Douglas to become an internet joke for trying to work a real job and get out of the business in his old age.

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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    Quote Originally Posted by PI View Post
    40 is an interesting age to choose for this. I don't know if this still holds true, but back in the day it seemed like a pro wrestler didn't really hit his peak prime (I guess meaning a combination of physical abilities plus mentally getting the business, psychology, etc.) until his early-to-mid 30s. But maybe that's partly a result of many guys getting into pro wrestling back in the day as a second career or fallback?
    I'd say this still holds true. Most top guys seem to hit their peak around their mid-30s. Pretty much everyone on that list above (The Sheik, Nick Bockwinkel, The Iron Sheik and DDP being the clear exceptions) had already hit their peak and had their biggest run by the time they were 40, so it's probably the appropriate time to either finish up or be making your way out of a top spot at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by PI View Post
    On first pass, initial thoughts were maybe we as fans and he as a wrestler would have be better off if Bret did retire in 1997.
    The Screwjob would have been a sour note to go out on (was getting kicked in the head in a failing company really any better?), but it would have been better for his legacy and health if Bret's last match was Survivor Series 1997.
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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    Quote Originally Posted by Damon
    I'd say this still holds true. Most top guys seem to hit their peak around their mid-30s. Pretty much everyone on that list above (The Sheik, Nick Bockwinkel, The Iron Sheik and DDP being the clear exceptions) had already hit their peak and had their biggest run by the time they were 40, so it's probably the appropriate time to either finish up or be making your way out of a top spot at least.
    And there's usually new stars to take their place sometimes getting the rub from them.

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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    Back in the mid-90s during WWF's New Generation push I was brainwashed into thinking wrestlers should be done at age 40. I was obviously an idiot. If wrestlers were forced to retire at 40 we never would have had....

    Flair vs. Funk in 1989
    Flair winning the 1992 Royal Rumble
    Flair vs. Vader
    Numerous Michaels & Taker classics
    Bret Hart at Canadian Stampede and the Montreal Screwjob
    Funk winning the ECW title
    Mr. Backlund
    Hogan vs. Andre
    Hollywood Hogan

    The list goes on and on.

    Edit: Damn. I had no idea AJ & Cena were either 40 or about to be. Time flies.

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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    40 is fine 50 is the age where it may be time to move on. Take Undertaker who was having good match at WM until about 50 which was Brock Lesnar which they had to end early and Shane.


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    Default Re: If Superstars Retired at 40...

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiMusashi View Post
    Says a lot about pro wrestling culture/fans for a guy like Shane Douglas to become an internet joke for trying to work a real job and get out of the business in his old age.
    I think that was more of "He wasted his money on drugs So he has to work at Target"

    Then Again, who are we to criticize anything anyone else does.

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