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    Default Tyler Black finally the babyface that everyone booked him as?

    So, I loved Tyler Black in Filth and the Fury and in Age of Fall. But I NEVER bought him as a top face. It just did not work. Working cards with guys like Dragon, Joe or Claudo or Cena and Dean in WWE, he just never worked as the top face. Tonight things seemed to have turned a curve. HHH and Seth's program is great, people are into them, and Seth's redemption is a great story. Seems like he finally is growing into the shoes that people put him in when he took the RoH title and went around the indies as a top guy. We are also getting all the depth of Age of the Fall Black, in WWE, in the storyline that has evolved over the last five years. It is everything Orton was supposed to be but did not pull off the first time around.

    So where are people with Seth. Is this his turning point into greatness?


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    I think Seth Rollins has been aligned to be the top guy in a post John Cena world - if Triple H were ever 100% in charge. I say this, because Seth Rollins is the best overall talent on the roster.

    I like this storyline, and I remember saying at the time, that the Shield angle would be ingrained in the WWE for a very long time. This wasn't simply a 2 year run as a team - this was the origin story for each of these guys. The turn, becoming the face of the Authority, being screwed by Triple H, his revenge..

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    Rollins isn't best overall talent anymore since they turned him face.

    I would rather watch an Owens segment (match or promo) now that's he's a solo heel act once again. Rollins got hit hard tonight by the Punk chants and HHH saving him on the mic.

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    Rollins at all times comes off like a prick. He's incredibly unlikable and I don't buy him as a face at all. He's the perfect heel and he should stick to what he's best at.

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    *sees thread title*

    *guesses who made it*


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    Default Re: Tyler Black finally the babyface that everyone booked him as?

    I don't know who this Tyler Black is or why he's the name in the thread title , but whatever. It's incredibly cool though.

    Last night wasn't a great launching point for Seth's face turn , the crowd was horrible for that segment but they were downright awful all night. I don't know what was going on , but I still have hope that going forward Seth can be a successful face with a few tweaks to his character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nath45 View Post
    I think Seth Rollins has been aligned to be the top guy in a post John Cena world - if Triple H were ever 100% in charge. I say this, because Seth Rollins is the best overall talent on the roster.

    I like this storyline, and I remember saying at the time, that the Shield angle would be ingrained in the WWE for a very long time. This wasn't simply a 2 year run as a team - this was the origin story for each of these guys. The turn, becoming the face of the Authority, being screwed by Triple H, his revenge..
    Yeah was fairly sure people were full of shit, Seth would be pushed to the top, turn face then fans would bore of him like they did in RoH, NXT and other feds. But this time, despite two injuries he keeps getting better.

    And Tyler Black was Seths name pre-WWE when he was declared the next big thing. I liked him cause he could flip and wrote amazing nihilist blog posts:

    http://projectonesixone.blogspot.com...1_archive.html

    But given Jimmy Jacobs already kind of was doing this gimmick, Black seemed like Jimmy 2.0. Also I fans liked him but did not love him in RoH. Not like Punk. Not like Joe. Not like Dragon. Which is what makes this run so special. I think fans are turning that corner.

    And of course I made the thread Ness. I said he was the next big thing when he debuted in Wrestling Society X because he was bigger guy that could do a shooting star and had that indy edgy look.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ness View Post
    *sees thread title*

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    We've got a thread winner ladies and gents. Seriously, it's not special to know a wrestlers pre-WWE name.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncall View Post
    We've got a thread winner ladies and gents. Seriously, it's not special to know a wrestlers pre-WWE name.
    Speaking for myself if I like both a wrestler pre WWE name and WWE name equally I'll just call them by their WWE name. However if I think the WWE name is horrible I just refer to them by their indy name. Athena now Ember Moon and Kana now Askua are prime examples of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    For those who missed it, the greatest stable debut ever. Project 161 ends and Age of the Fall debuts.

    I was a casual observer of ROH at the time, and I remember this being a big deal.

    Jimmy Jacobs was one of those guys I was sure would be a bigger deal.

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    Yeah I am really bummed that Jimmy is not in the cruiserweight division. But he is backstage, which I guess is where he is needed more. But feel wrestling lost a great character.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Speaking for myself if I like both a wrestler pre WWE name and WWE name equally I'll just call them by their WWE name. However if I think the WWE name is horrible I just refer to them by their indy name. Athena now Ember Moon and Kana now Askua are prime examples of this.
    I guess using the WWE names in the WWE section makes more sense since a lot of people might not be familiar with their indy names.

    On the topic, I'm not really digging Seth as a face, plus his promo on RAW was rather week which didn't help his case in my books.

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    C, why did you title this with his indy name and not his WWE name?
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    New gimmick of refusing to use people's WWE names? Or maybe calling the guy by the name I seen him wrestle the most as? Or to highlight that Tyler Black failed where Seth Rollins is succeeding highlighting the grow of him as a wrestler and how he is using WWE to evolve into a far more complex character than he ever had.

    But the gimmick of never using the current name for guys does show promise since it is obviously getting a rise from people. Make some posts about The Prototype later and watch heads roll.


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    This past Raw was first time I bought Seth as a face. He finally delievered a good face promo and hopefully he continues to get better as a face. Seth was one of my favorite heels, he was a fantastic one so his face run has been disappointing because he is just a natural heel but he finally got it right this week.

    Green Bay was predictable but at least it was over rather quickly.
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    Remember when that poster used to refer to Jericho as Irvine?

    That was annoying as shit, who was that again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HilaryFan View Post
    Remember when that poster used to refer to Jericho as Irvine?

    That was annoying as shit, who was that again?
    I don't know, but there's someone who still calls HHH by the name "Helmsley" in 2017.

    Which is just bizarre.
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    What a silly thing to call Jean-Paul Lévesque


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    I have no problem with Helmsley to be honest, I think that's pretty acceptable. It is part of the HHH moniker at least. Hunter is still used so I don't have a problem with Helmsley

    On topic, Seth absolutely sucks balls as a face. I really thought for a long time he was going to be money as a face due to his Jeff Hardy like moveset, but how wrong I was. He may have Hardys in ring ability and more, but he doesn't have 1/10th of Jeffs natural likability

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    Quote Originally Posted by HilaryFan View Post
    Remember when that poster used to refer to Jericho as Irvine?

    That was annoying as shit, who was that again?
    Did anyone veer refer to Daniel Bryan as Brian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    What a silly thing to call Jean-Paul Lévesque
    I wonder if Michael Hickenbottom calls HHH Hunter or Paul.

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    *Jean-Paul. As in the French Canadian superstar from WCW.



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    Default Re: Tyler Black finally the babyface that everyone booked him as?

    I had to read through the thread to find out who Tyler Black was.

    Not a fan of Seth's. Don't know that I ever will be. He's ok, but something about him just doesn't appeal to me. Face or heel. I just don't find him interesting.

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    The shtick of referring to a wrestler with his indy name is super cheesy. Omg look at how smart and impressive I am to be able to use google to learn his old name and pretenf I"m smart and impress people. Shut up, it's neither funny or impressive. Just stupid.

    Seth has the face and the snarl of a smarmy weasel. His "it" factor is that he is a guy thaT looks like you want to punch him. He should be playing the chicken shit heel.

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    *Thread title* Who?

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