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    New Japan Pro Wrestling was founded by Antonio Inoki in 1972, serving as one of Japan's top promotions from then to the present day. In 2016 NJPW is the biggest promotion in the country, becoming a national phenomenom in the 2010s when puroresu as a whole was in a down period. Many factors contributed to this, such as the rise of enigmatic superstars and exciting stables such as Hiroshi Tanahashi, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kazuchida Okada, The Bullet Club, Kenny Omega and Testuya Naito. Another big factor is the Western-influenced booking of Gedo, making NJPW the first Japanese promotion to heavily feature Western pro-wrestling tropes such as cheating, interference and gang beatdowns. The start of 2016 saw the loss of several of NJPW's top stars, namely Nakamura, AJ Styles, Karl Anderson, and Doc Gallows, as well as the gradual decline of former Ace Hiroshi Tanahashi. However, the company still thrives, with Kazuchida Okada defeating Tanahashi to become the new Ace at Wrestle Kingdom 10, and new talent being pushed to the top, such as Katsuyori Shibata, Tetsuya Naito, and Kenny Omega. The latter became the first ever Western wrestler to win the G1 Climax. His reward is main eventing the Tokyo Dome when he challenges Okada for the IWGP Heavyweight Championship.

    This thread will serve as the general discussion thread for all things NJPW, with the exception of special occasions such as Wrestle Kingdom and the G1 Climax tournament which merit their own threads.

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    The last big event was Power Struggle, when two titles switched hands: KUSHIDA regained the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship against BUSHI, and EVIL upset Shibata to take the NEVER Openweight Championship. Another big result was Kenny Omega pinning Okada in the CHAOS vs Bullet Club semi-main event tag team match.

    Since then, NJPW have run a couple of big shows. First, two joint shows with Revolution Pro Wrestling in the UK. Shibata main evented both shows, first capturing the RevPro British Heavyweight Title from Zack Sabre Jr., then defending it against Chris Hero the following night. Shibata's busy schedule continued four days later, in Singapore, when he succeeded in his rematch against EVIL, regaining the NEVER Championship.

    I'm going to check out these three Shibata matches, he is a must-watch wrestler for me. Speaking of which, let's get some discussion going. NJPW watchers: who are your favourite NJPW wrestlers? My top three are Shibata, Naito, and Omega. Shibata is the embodiment of puroresu tropes to the point of almost being a parody, but it somehow works. The things I am sick of seeing other wrestlers doing, such as no-selling and long strike exchanges for some reason are incredibly entertaining when done by Shibata. Naito and Omega are two of the best characters in the business, they are exciting workers with incredible movesets.

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    Can't wait to see who Naito's partner will be at the World Tag League tomorrow night. Meltzer believes it could be Rush, which would be fantastic as that was really the genesis of Naito's new character. Their work in CMLL was fantastic together and along with La Sombra (NXT's Almas) may have been my favourite act of 2015. Also curious to see how War Machine perform in their excursion of NJPW. Apparently they've been finding their groove of late in ROH and I get the feeling that they can take their work to the next level like Elgin managed to in the 2015 G-1.

    Top 3?

    Blue Justice Yuji Nagata continues to deliver fantastic performances at 48 and was central in Shibata's evolution as a character. I like how Shibata was able to mature over the year, and I think it was the Nagata program that allowed that to happen.

    I don't like everything he does, but Ishii is a stand out performer and before guys like Elgin and Ciampa starting aping his bits, was a genuine breath of fresh air. He continually gets great matches out of people and he's usually the one generated the most buzz out of each show - it's difficult not to respect that.

    Finally, Ricochet is a star. Everytime I see him perform, I'm just blown away by the man's athleticism and ability to grow as a performer. NJPW needs to take the lessons they learned from Prince Devitt and Kenny Omega and push this man pronto. They missed out on Ibushi (for now...) and Ricochet would easily fill that void.

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    Ishii is a wrestler of the year candidate basically every year, and that's in wrestling as a whole and not just NJPW. The guy just cannot have a bad match, although the closest he came were the never ending series with Makabe. Makabe sucks though, and even a couple of those matches were fucking great

    Tanahashi is simply the greatest of all time

    Shibata is the fucking man and deserves to be champion sooner than later

    Naito is one of the most entertaining characters in the business and a hell of a worker to boot

    I love Honma but he's really had a very bad 6 months. He's not that over anymore for some reason, maybe it's the allegations made by his ex wife

    Okada and Omega, enough said. Going to be an epic main event.

    Yoshi Hashi used to be a guy I couldn't give two fucks about, but this years G1 showed us all that when given a chance he's actually a hell of a worker.

    SANADA is going to be a star. This is not the same guy who floundered around in TNA.

    KUSHIDA is stale as fuck in the lightweight division and needs to move up. That guy can freaking go

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    Thanks for reminding me, Big Pete. The World Tag League starts in a few days. It's the tag team equivalent of the G1 Climax: same structure, same rewards. Two blocks each compete in a round robin tournament. The winners of each block advances to the finals, and the winner of that match will face the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Champions, the Guerrillas of Destiny, at Wrestle Kingdom 11. It lacks the appeal of the G1 Climax mainly because we know many tag teams aren't going to win, such as tag teams featuring guys already scheduled for a match at Wrestle Kingdom.

    A Block
    Manabu Nakanishi & Henare
    War Machine
    Brian Breaker & Leland Race
    Yujiro Takahashi & Hangman Page
    Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima
    Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa (c)
    Hiroshi Tanahashi & Juice Robinson
    Tetsuya Naito & Mystery Partner

    B Block
    Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI
    Togi Makabe & Tomoaki Honma
    SANADA & EVIL
    Katsuyori Shibata & Yuji Nagata
    Bad Luck Fale & Bone Soldier
    Hirooki Goto & Tomohiro Ishii
    Kenny Omega & Chase Owens
    YOSHITATSU & Billy Gunn

    Many interesting pairings to consider. ROH's War Machine make their NJPW debut, hoping to make a big impression as colleague Michael Elgin did in the G1 Climax. As Big Pete mentioned, Naito's partner has yet to be revealed, likely a new Los Ingobernables de Japón member. Okada and YOSHI-HASHI are going to be a formidable force given YOSHI-HASHI's recent rise to the upper midcard. Shibata and Nagata is a very exciting team. I don't know who Bone Soldier is. Bullet Club sneaked in a new member! Is it Cody Hall or someone else? Finally, YOSHITATSU and Billy Gunn is a very random yet intriguing pairing.

    I like Goto's and Ishii's chances to win the whole thing. Don't think either man has a match scheduled for Wrestle Kingdom, and this seems like the right slot for them. Makabe and Honma are in the same position, but I believe they've already feuded with the Guerrillas so that's less interesting. War Machine and TenKoji look like the favourites from the A Block besides the champions.

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    I doubt I will ever see eye to eye with you guys on Ishii. He's not bad, but I don't find him especially interesting. Maybe he doesn't have many or any bad matches, but I find him pretty dull, very skippable. I certainly don't think he has as many great matches as you guys do. Shibata does the tough guy shtick in a far more interesting and exciting way, and he's way more versatile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pete View Post
    Blue Justice Yuji Nagata continues to deliver fantastic performances at 48 and was central in Shibata's evolution as a character. I like how Shibata was able to mature over the year, and I think it was the Nagata program that allowed that to happen.
    I don't think it was exclusively the Nagata feud that made Shibata into a top tier performer. He's gradually been improving over the past couple of years. He was one of the highlights of the 2015 G1. The NEVER title reign gave him a bigger platform to demonstrate how good he is against a variety of opponents. I think his lengthy feuds with Ishii and Nagata helped him more grow than his directionless run pre-NEVER, but he's been improving for a long time. Within the next year he should be moving up to challenge for the top two titles, but he's fine in his own little bubble for the moment.

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    Finally, Ricochet is a star. Everytime I see him perform, I'm just blown away by the man's athleticism and ability to grow as a performer. NJPW needs to take the lessons they learned from Prince Devitt and Kenny Omega and push this man pronto. They missed out on Ibushi (for now...) and Ricochet would easily fill that void.
    I'm not so convinced by Ricochet. He can flip better than most of the other flippy guys, but I don't see anything beyond that. What's his personality? His character? I don't see it. As hokey as Ospreay is, at least there's something to latch onto. Ricochet comes across as robotic.

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    Yoshi Hashi used to be a guy I couldn't give two fucks about, but this years G1 showed us all that when given a chance he's actually a hell of a worker.

    SANADA is going to be a star. This is not the same guy who floundered around in TNA.

    KUSHIDA is stale as fuck in the lightweight division and needs to move up. That guy can freaking go
    Agreed on these three points (and everything else you said apart from Ishii and Tanahashi). I'm not massive on SANADA right now but his potential is limitless. Great look and a freak athlete who's already a pretty solid worker. I could see him challenging Okada to become the next Ace a few years down the line.

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    I still can't believe YOSHITATSU & Billy Gun are going to be in the World Tag League.

    Love that War Machine are going to be in it & I hope they have a good showing.
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    Shibata does the tough guy shtick in a far more interesting and exciting way, and he's way more versatile.
    Character > Performance, especially when it comes to toughness. Shibata's offence maybe more spectacular but it's tough to build a connection with his character when he purposefully sticks to the same 'dickhead' persona he's carried since 2012. Which is why the Nagata series was so valuable because it provided Shibata with some much needed character development that had been sorely lacking. The fans genuinely cared about the outcome of the matches and Nagata was a great foil for Shibata.

    Meanwhile Ishii is such an understated and humble performer, it's difficult not to root for him. In a lot of ways, he's the NJPW equivalent of Daniel Bryan (or at least the WWE version) where he's the perrenial B+ player but he continues to find ways to catch opponent's off-guard. There's a sense of unpredictability when it comes to Ishii's matches that I find exciting and I find he lays his matches out better than Shibata who relies more on cheap thrills to illicit a reaction. Admittedly I am coming down from that Guerillas of Destiny v Ishii/YOSHI-HASHI match which made me respect Ishii's ability to get the best out of his respective opponents.

    Don't get me wrong, Shibata is still a world-class performer and would easily make a Top 20 of 2016 list if I was to put one together. However, there are issues with the total package that work against him style-wise in respect to Ishii.

    Plus, it's my favourite's list god dammit.

    As for Ricochet, it's all about charisma and the way he carries himself. When I see him in the ring with guys like Romero, Barreta, Sydal, Finlay, Ospreay etc. he stands out and the crowd responds in kind. He may not be the best in-ring performer, I can think of at least five guys who have had better career years, but I'm somebody who enjoys watching performers with an upside. With guys like Omega, Naito, Elgin, YOSHI-HASHI, they maybe having great years but ultimately I feel like we're going to be talking about Ricochet more in three-five years time than most of those guys.

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    Rush has no bookings coming up in Mexico so it all but confirms his team with Naito.

    What matches are you guys looking forward to?

    My list:

    11/18
    Hiroshi Tanahashi & Juice Robinson vs Tetsuya Naito & X

    11/19
    Yoshitatsu & Billy Gunn vs Kenny Omega & Chase Owens
    EVIL & SANADA vs Yuji Nagata & Katsuyori Shibata
    Kazcuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI vs GBH

    11/20
    Hiroshi Tanahashi & Juice Robinson vs War Machine

    11/26
    Tetsuya Naito & X vs Leland Rice & Brian Breaker
    TenKoji vs War Machine
    Hirooki Goto & Tomohiro Ishii vs EVIL & SANADA

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    Ishii is the best seller is the business and actually has damn good offensive manoeuvres like spinning kicks and shit for a guy his body shape. Couple of times he has made me legit fear for his health

    Bone Soldier is sadly not a new member or Cody Hall. It's Captain New Japan post heel turn, in probably the worst storyline of 2016

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    The World Tag League doesn't interest me as a whole. It's a far more less interesting version of G1. The majority of teams are singles guys thrown together, and I said before, I know that a lot of the teams aren't going to win. It puts a damper on the whole thing. I'll probably watch a few War Machine, Naito/X and Shibata/Nagata matches because they are the most intriguing teams. Okada/YOSHI-HASHI vs Omega/Owens also appeals.

    Someone needs to tell me who Leland Race and Brian Breaker are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Pete View Post
    Character > Performance, especially when it comes to toughness. Shibata's offence maybe more spectacular but it's tough to build a connection with his character when he purposefully sticks to the same 'dickhead' persona he's carried since 2012. Which is why the Nagata series was so valuable because it provided Shibata with some much needed character development that had been sorely lacking. The fans genuinely cared about the outcome of the matches and Nagata was a great foil for Shibata.

    Meanwhile Ishii is such an understated and humble performer, it's difficult not to root for him. In a lot of ways, he's the NJPW equivalent of Daniel Bryan (or at least the WWE version) where he's the perrenial B+ player but he continues to find ways to catch opponent's off-guard. There's a sense of unpredictability when it comes to Ishii's matches that I find exciting and I find he lays his matches out better than Shibata who relies more on cheap thrills to illicit a reaction. Admittedly I am coming down from that Guerillas of Destiny v Ishii/YOSHI-HASHI match which made me respect Ishii's ability to get the best out of his respective opponents.
    I pretty much agree with all of this. Don't have much to add apart from the fact that I like the 'dickhead' character in Japanese wrestling. After all, KENTA has been my favourite wrestler for nearly a decade, and Kawada was the first guy to really grab me when I started watching AJPW. Dickheads who kick a lot = Emperor's favourite wrestlers.

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    Someone needs to tell me who Leland Race and Brian Breaker are.
    I just know them as two guys from Harley Race's promotion. Usually Race sends them over to NOAH for their World Tag leagues but this year he's sending them to NJPW.

    I just want to see Naito & Rush mess with them more than anything else.

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    Just watching through RPW vs NJPW night one, Hero vs Ishii was awesome!!!

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    World Tag League Results

    Day 1 - A Block
    War Machine defeated Manabu Nakanishi and Henare (7:03)
    Brian Breaker and Leland Race defeated Yujiro Takahashi and Hangman Page (11:13)
    Tencozy defeated Guerrillas of Destiny (11:06)
    Tetsuya Naito and Rush defeated Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robison (16:50)

    Day 2 - B Block
    Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn defeated Kenny Omega and Chase Owens (10:40)
    Hirooki Goto and Tomohiro Ishii defeated Bad Luck Fale and Bone Soldier (9:20)
    Katsuyori Shibata and Yuji Nagata defeated SANADA and EVIL (12:02)
    Great Bash Heel defeated Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI (17:03)

    Day 3 - A Block
    Manabu Nakanishi and Henare defeated Yujiro Takahashi and Hangman Page (8:59)
    Guerrillas of Destiny defeated Brian Breaker and Leland Race (10:43)
    War Machine defeated Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robinson (11:49)
    Tencozy defeated Tetsuya Naito and Rush (14:15)

    War Machine and Tencozy strong out of the gates in the A Block. Both teams picked up big wins on Day 3.

    Great Bash Heel (Togi Makabe and Tomoaki Honma) won last year's tournament. Makabe seems to be commentating more than wrestling these days, but he's still a force to be reckoned with as the defending champions open with a strong victory over Okada and YOSHI-HASHI.

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    War Machine made an extremely impressive first showing. They look the part, and they deliver the goods. A nasty-looking spot in the early goings of the match saw Henare being gorilla pressed onto Nakanishi, who pretty much failed to catch him. Henare looked to be in serious pain, but worked the rest of the match just fine. It's 2016 and almost no wrestling move can shock me anymore, but watching Hansen perform a flawless springboard clothesline made me jump out of my seat and yell at my monitor. War Machine followed this up with a nasty elevated top rope leg drop double team for a convincing victory. Couldn't ask for a better introduction match. Is Hansen's gimmick in any way related to Stan Hansen? I noticed him do a classic Stan Hansen taunt after hitting a suicide dive.

    Brian Breaker and Leland Race were never expected to match War Machine in terms of pure spectacle. However, they were still completely unremarkable, solid hands who didn't do anything particularly noteworthy.

    As expected, Naito took several minutes to savour the moment before his surprise tag team partner, Rush, came to join him. The match wasn't anything special, but Naito and Rush were clearly having a lot of fun when in control. Otherwise, Rush didn't impress me that much. In fact, Juice Robinson was the standout performer for me. I haven't seen much of him, but the dude has got super over, although I have a hard time understanding what he's all about. He's just a goofball, I guess.

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    Outside of the homage (the taunt), there's no relation between Hansen and The Lariat, kayfabe or otherwise. Another ROH wrestler Silas Young tried claiming he was the nephew of Stan but Hansen blew the rumour off on the JR show.

    So Goto/Ishii are going to win this tournament right?

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    It's between them and GBH in Block B. I imagine Block A will come down to War Machine and Tencozy. I'd be more interested in seeing Tenzan/Kojima win than Goto/Ishii, and I don't think it's out of this world either.

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    I'm down for a War Machine/Tencozy vs GBH/LIDJ/Goto Ishii final. Any of the possible combinations from those 5 teams would please me

    I'm hoping they go the unconventional heel/heel route and do GOD vs LIDJ at WK. That would be my first choice

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    I wouldn't have an issue with that.

    A central theme of NJPW is the Dragon Gate esque stable wars and SANADA/EVIL were among New Japan's best last year.

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    Random Question: How many stars has Tanahashi helped create?

    Okada, Omega, Ishii, Anderson...

    Am I forgetting anyone?

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    Time will tell on SANADA.

    Being the difference maker in the IWGP Championship match was what put him on the map.

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    World Tag League Results

    Day 4 - B Block
    SANADA and EVIL defeated Bad Luck Fale and Bone Soldier (9:30)
    Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn defeated Great Bash Heel (no time given)
    Hirooki Goto and Tomohiro Ishii defeated Kenny Omega and Chase Owens (10:36)
    Kazuchika Okada and YOSHI-HASHI defeated Katsuyori Shibata and Yuji Nagata (17:30)

    Day 5 - A Block
    Brian Breaker and Leland Race defeated Manabu Nakanishi and Henare(11:54)
    Guerrillas of Destiny defeated War Machine (11:33)
    Yujiro Takahashi and Hangman Page defeated Tetsuya Naito and Rush (13:03)
    Tencozy defeated Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robinson (18:49)

    Day 6 - B Block
    SANADA and EVIL defeated Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn (9:22)
    Kenny Omega and Chase Owens defeated Bad Luck Fale and Bone Soldier (7:41)
    Katsuyori Shibata and Yuji Nagata defeated Great Bash Heel (10:58)
    Kazuchika Okada and YOSHI-HASHI defeated Hirooki Goto and Tomohiro Ishii (18:49)

    Day 7 - A Block
    Guerrillas of Destiny defeated Manabu Nakanishi and Henare (10:18)
    War Machine defeated Tencozy (8:44)
    Tetsuya Naito and Rush defeated Brian Breaker and Leland Race (12:17)
    Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robinson defeated Yujiro Takahashi and Hangman Page (15:59)

    Day 8 - B Block
    Katsuyori Shibata and Yuji Nagata defeated Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn (11:01)
    Great Bash Heel defeated Kenny Omega and Chase Owens (12:36) (7:41)
    Kazuchika Okada and YOSHI-HASHI defeated Bad Luck Fale and Bone Soldier (12:30)
    Hirooki Goto and Tomohiro Ishii defeated SANADA and EVIL (no time given)

    Standings
    A Block
    6 points (3-0-1): Guerrillas of Destiny, Tencozy, War Machine
    4 points (2-0-2): Breaker/Race, Takahashi/Page, Naito/Rush
    2 points (1-0-3): Tanahashi/Robinson
    0 points (0-0-4): Nakanishi/Henare

    B Block
    6 points (3-0-1): Goto/Ishii, Okada/YOSHI-HASHI, SANADA/EVIL
    4 points (2-0-2): Great Bash Heel, Shibata/Nagata, Yoshitatsu/Gunn
    2 points (1-0-3): Omega/Owens
    0 points (0-0-4): Fale/Bone Soldier

    In the A Block, War Machine and Tencozy are still standing at the top of the group (with Guerrillas of Destiny) although they have each suffered one loss. In their head to head, War Machine defeated Tencozy, which could be crucial if these two teams maintain their top spot to the very end.

    In the B Block, there was a big upset for Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn, defeating a team I consider to be one of the favourites of the block in Great Bash Heel. Another loss to Shibata and Nagata might already put GBH out of the running. Meanwhile the two CHAOS teams (Okada/YOSHI, Goto/Ishii) and EVIL/SANADA are on three wins and one loss each. Two of the matchups between these three teams have already happened, so the remaining one (Okada/YOSHI vs EVIL/SANADA) might be a crucial match. Bullet Club are having a disaster in this block, with both their teams sitting at the bottom.

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    World Tag League Results

    Day 9 - A Block
    Tencozy defeated Manabu Nakanishi and Henare (9:50)
    Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robinson defeated Brian Breaker and Leland Race (15:12)

    Day 10 - B Block
    Hirooki Goto and Tomohiro Ishii defeated Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn (12:40)
    Kenny Omega and Chase Owens defeated Kazuchika Okada and YOSHI-HASHI (17:33)

    Day 11 - A Block
    Guerrillas of Destiny defeated Yujiro Takahashi and Hangman Page (11:23)
    Tetsuya Naito and Rush defeated War Machine (13:33)

    Day 12 - B Block
    Katsuyori Shibata and Yuji Nagata defeated Bad Luck Fale and Bone Soldier (10:53)
    Great Bash Heel defeated SANADA and EVIL (16:20)

    Day 13 - A Block
    Tetsuya Naito and Rush defeated Manabu Nakanishi and Henare (13:23)
    War Machine defeated Brian Breaker and Leland Race (9:27)
    Tencozy defeated Yujiro Takahashi and Hangman Page (11:31)
    Guerrillas of Destiny defeated Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robinson (14:51)

    Day 14 - B Block
    Great Bash Heel defeated Bad Luck Fale and Bone Soldier (7:50)
    SANADA and EVIL defeated Kenny Omega and Chase Owens (9:01)
    Kazuchika Okada and YOSHI-HASHI defeated Yoshitatsu and Billy Gunn (14:11)
    Katsuyori Shibata and Yuji Nagata defeated Hirooki Goto and Tomohiro Ishii (16:50)

    One round left to go! Here are the standings:

    Standings
    A Block
    10 points (5-0-1): Guerrillas of Destiny
    8 points (4-0-2): Naito/Rush, Tencozy, War Machine
    6 points (3-0-3): Takahashi/Page
    4 points (2-0-2): Tanahashi/Robinson, Breaker/Race
    0 points (0-0-6): Nakanishi/Henare

    We are set for an explosive final day as Naito and Rush face Guerrillas of Destiny, hoping to spoil their chances of winning the group. Tencozy and War Machine will be expected to win their final matches against Breaker/Race and Takahashi/Page respectively. Assuming Naito/Rush also win, who would win the group? Not sure how the tiebreak system works, but I assume it's the team who did the best against the other top teams. If that's the case, then Tencozy and Naito/Rush would both be on two out of three wins, and Tencozy beat Naito/Rush, so Tencozy wins? Yeah, let's go with that. And that's exactly what I think will happen. Tencozy being in the final will be much more interesting than GoD making the final, although the latter isn't completely unreasonable.

    B Block
    8 points (4-0-2): Great Bash Heel, Goto/Ishii, Okada/YOSHI-HASHI, SANADA/EVIL, Shibata/Nagata
    4 points (2-0-4): Yoshitatsu/Gunn, Omega/Owens
    0 points (0-0-6): Fale/Bone Soldier

    This block is a much closer affair, with five teams tied for first place. The final round sees Goto/Ishii face GBH, Okada/YOSHI face EVIL/SANADA and Shibata/Nagata face Owens/Omega. This one's tough to call. I see Owens/Omega beating Shibata/Nagata to play spoiler, LIJ beating Okada/Omega, and I don't know who will win the other match. The way I see it, all three of GBH, Goto/Ishii and LIJ could win the group.

    Any predictions?

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    Of those three teams, CHAOS (Goto/Ishii) make the most sense. They're two of the biggest stars in NJPW with nothing better to do at WrestleKingdom XI. Plus, Ishii recently challenged for the IWGP Tag Team Championship with YOSHI-HASHI. While Goto's gimmick seems to be that of the bridesmaid, I can see him and Ishii winning IWGP Gold on January 4th, opening the division up to better matches.

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