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    This has been a long time coming...With everything that's been going on around the planet at the moment and people always worried about healthcare plans, etc I chose to make this thread about cannabis-A plant which has been used for well over 30,000 years(at the very least) by humans for all sorts of things, whether by shamans in order to help heal patients or go through out-of-body journeys, by everyday people to heal themselves, by numerous non human animal species (including deer and grasshoppers) and the list goes on...

    I just want everyone's opinions on cannabis overall, whether you use it, want to use it, hate it, whatever..Just contribute to the thread and post any interesting links, whether it's articles, videos or anything else you can scrounge up. I also want to hear about how cannabis is treated in different countries, seeing as how PW has people from a number of different continents.

    Personally, I've been using cannabis as my healthcare plan in conjunction with Chinese medicine consistently since 2000(and inconsistently before then) by eating, drinking(cannabis is in some drinks you can buy at certain cannabis clubs), smoking, vaporizing, using Rick Simpson Oil, which is highly concentrated cannabis oil inside a syringe and a good starting dose would be 1 rice-grain sized dose under your tongue(which I'll get into later), tinctures(think of a small bottle full of liquid cannabis with an eyedropper in it and 1-2 drops under your tongue is a good starting dose), cannabis massage creams, along with hash, wax and shatter(2 types of highly concentrated, extremely potent forms of cannabis)..What I've yet to try is cannabis epson salt bath soaks and juicing cannabis(put stems, buds, leaves, etc into a blender and drink the juice).

    Here's more info on wax-

    http://www.caregiversforlife.net/blo...ow-is-it-used/

    Here's some info on shatter(Which, by the way can be very sticky. Just put it in the freezer for a few hours, take it out and it'll break apart into pieces)

    http://www.cannabis.info/USA/library...-concentrates/

    Word of advice-Put wax/shatter in a vaporizer. It works better than smoking it.

    Now, certain tribes have used cannabis for centuries on end..The San, also known as Bushmen, who communicate through multiple types of tongue clicks) of the Kalahari Desert in South Africa are a prime example of this. For many thousands of years before slave-traders came to Africa, these southern tribes, along with northern tribes used cannabis(sometimes called "dagga". It would be eaten or smoked for the most part. The Zulu have been known to smoke dagga before going into battle.-

    http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp...rst12000/7.htm

    Another link concerning tribal cannabis use-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheog...se_of_cannabis

    Here's a link about Chinese medicine and cannabis-http://www.thenorthwestleaf.com/page...-for-centuries

    Yet another link-http://www.globalhemp.com/2014/03/th...-medicine.html

    Now about cannabis and non-human animals..Basically, animals such as deer have been eating cannabis for centuries and for good reason...If a non-human animal is sick, they know which plants to eat in order to get healthy again..Below is a link to a site which has cannabis for pets. Now, keep in mind that no matter what kind of animal, whether it's the human animal, hammerhead sharks, crows, plankton, frogs, barracudas, polar bears, whales, platypus, deer, komodo dragons..They ALL have cannabinoid receptors in their bodies, just like humans do, hence my point about numerous species using cannabis to heal themselves. Also, an interesting fact for anyone who lives in a state which has cannabis clubs-A cannabis club in Oakland has Cannabickies dog treats, which has 1-2 milligrams of THC baked into each dog treat. It's for dogs that have cancer, hip dysplasia, arthritis, etc

    http://canna-pet.com/

    Now to get into juicing cannabis, which I mentioned earlier...This is shown through the video below-



    Here is Run From The Cure, which details the Rick Simpson Oil I mentioned earlier-



    1 very influential person whom most Americans have never even heard of is Dr. Raphael Mechoulam. He helped to first isolate THC back in 1964, along with Drs Yehiel Gaoni and Haviv Edery. Mechoulam is 84 years old and still researching cannabis in Israel. Speaking of Israel, a good amount of their hospitals have patients (from kids to geriatrics) using cannabis as the main medicine of choice.

    Raphael's wiki page-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Mechoulam




    Now to get into the research which countries such as Israel, Chile, Spain, India, The Czech Republic, Canada, Portugal, Jamaica, Germany, The Netherlands and others are actively doing-

    Israel's cannabis research is highly commendable..

    Here's a link-http://www.vosizneias.com/193464/201...uana-research/

    In that article, it mentions they're making a particular strain to help epileptic kids called "Rafael" which would have way more CBD than THC, hence the kids would get buzzed at the most.

    Another interesting Israeli article and at the bottom of the article, by all means listen to the radio discussion-

    http://www.israel21c.org/headlines/i...draws-a-crowd/

    Uruguay, a country which has legalized cannabis-

    Short but informative article-

    http://panampost.com/panam-staff/201...uana-research/

    Another one-

    http://panampost.com/panam-staff/201...ning-mid-2015/

    Now into Chile..Chile is slowly but surely going towards legalizing cannabis

    http://panampost.com/panam-staff/201...na-production/


    Even though it's from 2014, another short, good article.

    http://www.cannabisnewscenter.com/ch...annabis-seeds/

    Now, onto Spain. Spain, along with Germany(and possibly other countries which I MIGHT be leaving out) have cannabis social clubs, which are different from cannabis clubs in the US. It varies, but cannabis social club members generally grow their own plants at the club and pick up increments of them every few weeks.

    Below is an interesting site concerning Spain and cannabis

    http://www.cannabis-spain.com/

    Another good article-
    http://csglobe.com/spain-study-confi...-side-effects/

    Dr. Manuel Guzman from Spain has been actively researching cannabis for a long time. Below is an article written by him.

    Article-

    http://cannabis-med.org/index.php?tp...&id=274&lng=en

    Barcelona has had Spannabis(a cannabis festival) for many years

    http://www.spannabis.com/barcelona/index.php/en

    Onto India and its many thousands of years spent with cannabis and how it's used in Ayruvedic medicine. In certain cities in India(such as Varanasi) you can buy cannabis in many forms from various government-run shops..It's usually called bhang(pronounced "vaang"). It can be in drinks, sold as hash(which I'll get into), buds, edibles, etc. In India, cannabis has been used to cure dysentery, fever, among many other things..

    http://antiquecannabisbook.com/chap2B/India/India.htm

    Bhang's wiki link-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhang

    Concerning The Czech Republic, the link below has a few interesting articles-

    http://www.hemp.org/news/category/ca...czech-republic

    Even though this is from 2013, it's still pertinent.

    http://the420times.com/2013/04/czech...ical-cannabis/

    As far as The Netherlands goes, I've found a few things. The article below is about a new CBD dominant strain called Bedrolite.

    http://www.hightimes.com/read/new-cb...tch-pharmacies

    Great article-

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300021763.html

    Germany is advancing when it comes to cannabis..

    http://www.dw.de/high-time-for-medic...any/a-18231922

    Germany research shows how cannabis can make cancer cells burst-

    http://ireadculture.com/article-5046...ppression.html

    Fuck it..That's it for now. I'll add more news as it comes along. As I stated at the beginning of the thread, everyone's encouraged to add news, feedback, comments, etc
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    I'm pro-weed all the way. Weed was a huge help to me. It might sound absolutely crazy, but even if it was for a brief hour or two, it was one of my biggest helps to get through my issues. It didn't erase my issues, it just helped calm me down until I found a solution to my issues.

    The cures are always an interesting and amazing read for me. The fact that it's illegal is complete insanity. Does it kill brain cells? Probably. Did it make me have to think a second or two harder on math problems? Yes. Do I feel like I can solve any puzzle on it? Absolutely. This shit is genius seeds. I'm all in for legalization.

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    I used to smoke weed regularly when I was a teenager and then went through another phase when I was about 19 (by regularly, I don't mean every day...more like once every couple of weeks). I used to like getting stoned, but I could feel myself becoming more lazy and I was worried about it affecting my school grades so I stopped. I haven't smoked weed in about 5 years now...I much prefer alcohol anyway.

    I do think it should be legalised though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy View Post
    Are you a cop?
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    Hahah..Not a chance....I never liked the police for the most part, to begin with.

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    I completely agree with both LF and OGK on legalization..Just get it over with already. It's the safest plant on the planet, hence everyone should have access to it if they choose to..

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    All my life i was 100% drug free. i didnt take my first drink until my 21st birthday. Yeah i'm that much of a dork.

    I met my fiance and he is a serious pot head....as are most of his friends. i was curious so i tried with him and his friends once or twice. it made me really paranoid and i had a nightmare. the second time I was really really turned on and we had marathon sex.

    after that i never tried it again. My fiance and I have come to the agreement he isnt allowed to smoke around the kids or anywhere except our bedroom...or his car (like when he's at work. his coworkers are pot heads)

    Overall I dont smoke except once in a blue moon i might take a hit off his bowl so he doesnt feel so bad smoking alone.

    I support legalization because my fiance has rheumatoid arthritis in both his knees..as well as back troubles from being shot (then having surgery) in the military. I've watched him struggle to get out of bed due to that pain. But when he has something to smoke, it eases the pain and he can move a lot easier. (He doesnt like taking pain pills anyway...at one point in his life he tried to kill himself with them so he'd rather not take pain meds ever again)

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    One of the first times I smoked marijuana, I got such a bad high that I got the spins and started vomiting. I thought to myself, at that young age, that I would never do it again. Fortunately, I was young and never gave up! I quit for like two years a few years ago, but got back into it and haven't looked back ever since. I literally smoke at least a joint a day. Sometimes 2-3. Smoking alone has kind of become my thing as I only roll a small amount. To be honest, I don't get high like I used to, but the feeling of relief is still worth it. I would love to get blazed off my face again, though. However, that only happens at parties with multiple joints and blunts associated.

    I'm still not an extreme pot head, because I haven't bothered to learn the craft of rolling blunts. I've stuck to joints and have been happy enough rolling that. Blunts is what gets you fried up, though. It just seems like too much messy effort to get to that.

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    I've smoked, only after I got out of the military and didn't have to worry about a piss test. What's really nice is I can smoke any time I want and not worry about cops doing anything to me due to WA state being legal.

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    I've smoked and am probably the only person who is willing to stand up with a million logical points of why it should not be legal for recreational use. I am highly skeptical of it's use as a medicine.
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    Never tried it and have no real intention of ever trying it. I feel it might just lead to more problems for me than solving any.

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    Never really touched alcohol, but I got high for the first time about 2 years ago. I've been smoking it once or twice a week since then. I share with someone from work seeing as I have no idea how to go about obtaining my own. If it were to be legalized and sold that way in my region... I will probably make it a habit.

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    Bob Marley proved that smoking pot didn't burst his cancer cells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulblazed View Post
    I completely agree with both LF and OGK on legalization..Just get it over with already. It's the safest plant on the planet, hence everyone should have access to it if they choose to..
    safest on the planet? a psychoactive drug is safer than, what? alfalfa? lettuce?
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    I used to smoke back in the day. i really enjoyed it and preferred it over getting drunk. But I took a break a 2 years ago to pursue a career path and some goals I wanted to accomplish in my life, and i haven't smoked since then. Good thing is I accomplished what I wanted to, so I might start smoking again in june.

    Weed is illegal and imo the only way I could accomlish my goals was with a sober and clear mind. No point in risking jail time or postponing my dreams to get baked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ness View Post
    Never really touched alcohol, but I got high for the first time about 2 years ago. I've been smoking it once or twice a week since then. I share with someone from work seeing as I have no idea how to go about obtaining my own. If it were to be legalized and sold that way in my region... I will probably make it a habit.
    This is by far the most shocking thing i have ever read on this forum...

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    I'm what some might call '99 percent straight edge'. I've smoked once in my life and didn't really care for it. I didn't feel much of anything.

    I'm skeptical of the medical justifications, because they often times come from the crowd who just want it to be legalized so they don't have to worry about it getting busted. I have no issue with weed, and I've voted for its legalization twice.

    I just know that I won't ever be interested in trying it again.
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    I'm another one who drug and alcohol free until 21. Then I went through a brief decadent phase. Smoked for the first time at a party when I was 21. Didn't care much for it the first few times and then I had a bad experience which put me off for a few years. Lit up a few times since then just because I had a bunch of stoner friends who were always pestering me about doing it because "I was funny high" and ended up giving in a handful of times (probably because I was already drunk). Overall I've smoked maybe 10-12 times in my life with the last occasion being back in 2006 or 2007. I'm not against other people doing it. If getting high is your thing than go for it. It just isn't for me.

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    We had this talk in my developmental psychology class with the head of the APA Dev Psych division. So far this is what we know about marijuana. When it is smoked before the brain is fully formed around age 25 you lose brain plasticity. Brain plasticity is what allows you to learn new things and adapt to new situations. Now for adults over 25, there is very little known risk outside of the cancer risks from inhaling hot smoke.

    I have read many of the studies and almost all are misused. Ssome things to bear in mind when you read a study:

    What is the mode of intact? Many people point to a lack of marijuana causing cancer by looking at studies where it is injected as food. Naturally, eating marijuana will not give you throat or lung cancer since you are using it in a different manner. When you read a study look to see if the smoke is hot or cold, if it is smoked or eaten, which species is being used (Cannabis is the genus name not the species name) and how much is being used. Most studies that look at marijuana use, look at one very specific method of intake and compare it to all use, but things are far from that simple.

    For me, I would be very iffy trusting information from people who are unclear about what they are making. Marijuana is the general term for cannabis sativa, cannabis indica and cannabis ruderalis. Most discussions treat all three species as one species and assume all have the same effect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshDionio View Post
    I've smoked, only after I got out of the military and didn't have to worry about a piss test. What's really nice is I can smoke any time I want and not worry about cops doing anything to me due to WA state being legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    We had this talk in my developmental psychology class with the head of the APA Dev Psych division. So far this is what we know about marijuana. When it is smoked before the brain is fully formed around age 25 you lose brain plasticity. Brain plasticity is what allows you to learn new things and adapt to new situations. Now for adults over 25, there is very little known risk outside of the cancer risks from inhaling hot smoke.

    I have read many of the studies and almost all are misused. Ssome things to bear in mind when you read a study:

    What is the mode of intact? Many people point to a lack of marijuana causing cancer by looking at studies where it is injected as food. Naturally, eating marijuana will not give you throat or lung cancer since you are using it in a different manner. When you read a study look to see if the smoke is hot or cold, if it is smoked or eaten, which species is being used (Cannabis is the genus name not the species name) and how much is being used. Most studies that look at marijuana use, look at one very specific method of intake and compare it to all use, but things are far from that simple.

    For me, I would be very iffy trusting information from people who are unclear about what they are making. Marijuana is the general term for cannabis sativa, cannabis indica and cannabis ruderalis. Most discussions treat all three species as one species and assume all have the same effect.
    Question, C.

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    I found the results and stories behind it really fascinating, and more promising than anything involving marijuana.
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    I tried it for the first time when I was 19 and started smoking semi-regularly after that. Around 23 I got a really hot girlfriend that smoked every day so I did that (and her).

    Since then I've continued to smoke but my usage is sporadic. Sometimes it's a few times a day, sometimes I go weeks without it. Doesn't make a difference to me as I use it purely as a recreational thing.

    I support legalization because I really don't see why it shouldn't be. Health benefits/issues and all that other shit aside, what does marijuana really do that is more harmful than alcohol? I can't think of a single thing that marijuana might do that booze doesn't already do to people every day. And in a lot of cases the affects of alcohol are worse. So what's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RT View Post
    I tried it for the first time when I was 19 and started smoking semi-regularly after that. Around 23 I got a really hot girlfriend that smoked every day so I did that (and her).

    Since then I've continued to smoke but my usage is sporadic. Sometimes it's a few times a day, sometimes I go weeks without it. Doesn't make a difference to me as I use it purely as a recreational thing.

    I support legalization because I really don't see why it shouldn't be. Health benefits/issues and all that other shit aside, what does marijuana really do that is more harmful than alcohol? I can't think of a single thing that marijuana might do that booze doesn't already do to people every day. And in a lot of cases the affects of alcohol are worse. So what's the problem?
    The main problem is a black market that supports either drug cartels or horribly unregulated and toxic environmental growing techniques.
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    Imagine you are an owner of a large scale manufacturer like say Hyundai motors. And you are looking to manufacture cars. And your manufacturing jobs are dangerous. Do you bring your manufacturing facility to a state where recreational marijuana is legal or illegal?
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    Default Re: The Cannabis History Thread.Have You Tried It? Do You Hate It? Post Here Irregard

    Quote Originally Posted by Theend View Post
    Imagine you are an owner of a large scale manufacturer like say Hyundai motors. And you are looking to manufacture cars. And your manufacturing jobs are dangerous. Do you bring your manufacturing facility to a state where recreational marijuana is legal or illegal?
    That's such a stupid argument. People are just as likely to show up for work drunk.

    EDIT: To expand on what I'm saying...company policy that dictates employees should not show up for work intoxicated already covers all the bases (alcohol, drugs, heavy medication, etc) so what would change exactly? You can't do it now, but if marijuana is legalized a bunch of people are going to start putting their careers in jeopardy? Yeah right.

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