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    WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels recently appeared on Jim Ross' podcast, The Ross Report. Below are some highlights from the interview.

    Michaels on his WrestleMania 22 match with Vince McMahon and not feeling any pressure to be the main attraction or working with the boss: "I just felt like having a WrestleMania where I wasn't sort of expected to go out there and tear the house down. I just wanted to have one where it was just sort of relaxing and fun."

    Michaels on The Rock not being interested to work a program with him: "I can remember many, many years ago, as I came back. Pat Patterson asked about that and I said, 'Sure, whoever you want.' But he [The Rock] wasn't interested, and that was it. But I liked anybody that I hadn't been in the ring with."
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    I found this in the comment section:

    HBK is back to his losing-his-smile lying ways.

    "When The Rock's Grandmother took over Peter Maivia's Wrestling Fed, The
    Rockers were on the card and demanded things and were very disrespectful
    to The Rock's Grandmother and both Shawn and Marty (mostly Shawn) Bullied
    her....

    Also there was the time when the Rock was going get a big push and Shawn
    Michaels did everything politically to hold him down for some reason...
    Bret Hart Pushed for the Rock to get a bigger role and fought for him to
    get pushed.. here is another interview.

    Their issues persisted several years later when Johnson was a rookie
    starting out in WWE. Bret Hart wrote in his 2007 autobiography, Hitman:
    My Real Life in the Cartoon World of Wrestling, that Michaels and Triple
    H disliked Johnson “intensely.” Both resented him because he was
    talented and Hart, a political foe, had taken a shine to him. Many
    believe they were out to sabotage Johnson so that Hunter would ascend to
    the top before him, since they were both viewed as the future of the
    company at the time.

    Michaels and Hunter conspired to obstruct Johnson’s push in March 1997,
    who was the Intercontinental Champion at the time. Michaels suggested to
    Vince McMahon that Johnson lose the title to Hart on an episode of Raw.
    Meanwhile, Hunter insisted to Hart that he beat Johnson. Their
    suggestion would serve two purposes — sabotage Johnson’s push and take
    Hart out of the world title scene. Hart, however, refused to beat
    Johnson. Hart felt it wouldn’t build heat for his newly launched heel
    turn, not to mention that it would undermine Johnson. Instead, Hart
    insisted on a DQ finish, which infuriated Michaels and Hunter.

    Keller: I don't think Shawn Michaels's name has come up other than
    when we talked about the Survivor Series. What are your thoughts on him?
    Was he helpful to you? Was he a hindrance to you? Was he someone you
    learned from, even his mistakes? Did he set a good example?

    Rock: He was not helpful to me. I never sought his help. I really have nothing to say about Shawn.

    Keller: Is that because if you can't say something good, you don't want to say anything at all?

    Rock: Not necessarily. He was cordial with me as I was with him. But
    other than that, he doesn't know me well enough to speak of me and I
    don't know him well enough to speak of him.

    Keller: Michaels is regarded as a fabulous athlete, a fabulous
    performer, and one of the best of this era or generation. If you agree
    with that to any degree, do you have a desire to work a top program with
    him if he were able to come back and work a handful of matches?

    Rock: No, I have no desire to work with Shawn. None whatsoever."
    Maybe they are planting the seeds for Triple H vs. Rock at WM 31?

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    Or maybe he just really doesn't like Shawn Michaels.

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    The thing is Rock only knows (not Rock's fault, either) the Shawn Michaels from the late 90s. He probably never spent enough time with Shawn since. Even when Rock came back in 2011 Shawn was already retired.

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    Sure, but he has no obligation to come back to a job he doesn't need, to work with someone he doesn't like.

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    never heard a bad thing said about the rock. HBK is a different story

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    Let's face it HBK tainted his own wrestling rep from his past, hell even after his born again change undercards still leaked out that he was an asshole and spotlight stealer. Who's to say it is true .... but when a handful of talent said it there has to be some truth to the story right ? I don't look down on rock for NOT wanting to work with him nor do I condemn shawn of his past since he got things right with God. It simply is what it is so leave it alone, let's just hope how it was said was not done in stiring the shit pot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JV View Post
    The thing is Rock only knows (not Rock's fault, either) the Shawn Michaels from the late 90s. He probably never spent enough time with Shawn since. Even when Rock came back in 2011 Shawn was already retired.
    That's what I was going to mention.

    Shawn was a completely different person back then, and never really got to know the new Shawn that we all know and love now. I've always heard about the tension between the two, but I never really knew the reason why.

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    The only time I can remember them really working together was when the Nation was facing up to Chyna in the ring and HBK came down to make the save, but that wasn't much it was very minor
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    Quote Originally Posted by JV View Post
    Credit: ewrestlingnews

    I found this in the comment section:



    Maybe they are planting the seeds for Triple H vs. Rock at WM 31?
    Nah, the Rock has always disliked shawn, plus I think the Rock is done with in ring competition.

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    People still buy the bullshit, that Shawn is a changed man? Im with Cornette on this. Shawn proved he didnt change a bit, when he fueded with Hogan. Same petulant childish behavior than in the 90`s.

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    Let's be honest, Hogan was being difficult with Shawn. Hogan refused to do the match face vs. face.

    Can't really blame The Rock. Jericho's book touched on Rock a lot and he sounds like the kind of guy to let things go.

    HBK must've really been an ass to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriofan View Post
    The only time I can remember them really working together was when the Nation was facing up to Chyna in the ring and HBK came down to make the save, but that wasn't much it was very minor
    The Rock and HBK cut a Corperation promo against HHH's DX in my hometown back in 1998 on the Raw after the Rock Bottom PPV, it was pretty good too.

    Also HBK superkicked Rock in the main event of the very first Smackdown, to help HHH retain his newly won first World title.

    And HBK served as ref in the HHH/Rock Iron man match at Judgement Day 00.

    That was the most I can remember those two working together.


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    what about HHH vs rock on raw when michaels came down to make the save?? I remember he superkicked lesnar..

    That was when rock and lesnar were feuding..

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    Yeah, we could have probably gotten a tag match had it not been during HBK's hiatus.

    HBK/Rock stands as the greatest match to never happen. Would have preferred it over Hogan/Austin. They are literally the two most charismatic performers in WWE history.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BadNewsFan View Post
    The Rock and HBK cut a Corperation promo against HHH's DX in my hometown back in 1998 on the Raw after the Rock Bottom PPV, it was pretty good too.

    Also HBK superkicked Rock in the main event of the very first Smackdown, to help HHH retain his newly won first World title.

    And HBK served as ref in the HHH/Rock Iron man match at Judgement Day 00.

    That was the most I can remember those two working together.
    Yep, these are pretty much the extent of their biggest encounters (meaning not including those where they were barely a part of the same thing, like the instance two posts above).

    I love that Corporation promo, and it was interesting because they seemed all chummy together. To someone who wouldn't know their history, you'd think they were friends. The promo was a thing of beauty, though. Rock going through famous catchphrases of other wrestlers, still has me rolling today.


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    As for the inaugural Smackdown main event, 11 year old me was jumping up and down during that People's Elbow attempt, and then my stomach sank. Up to that moment, I'd never hated a wrestler as much as I hated Shawn Michaels. It still stings a little. And by the time Judgment Day rolled around, I was mad at him again for not noticing all the commotion in the ring, and disqualifying Rock.



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    On camera at the 2008 Hall of Fame, The Rock stated Shawn Michaels was someone he would like to face as well as Rey Mysterio and John Cena. Something doesn't add up here.

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    Default Re: ​HBK: 'The Rock Wasn't Interested In Working With Me'

    Rock probably had doubts in 2002, that means his opinion changed 6 years down the line.


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    On camera at the 2008 Hall of Fame, The Rock stated Shawn Michaels was someone he would like to face as well as Rey Mysterio and John Cena. Something doesn't add up here.
    He was giving fans false hope. He never cared to work with HBK as evidenced by his 2005 interview with WWE.com for his promotion of Doom.

    WWE.com: A lot of people on the Internet have always said they would love to have seen The Rock vs. Shawn Michaels. Is that a match you would have liked to have had?

    The Rock: I was never interested in working with him, to be honest with you. I've known him for a long time. He came in and worked for my family in Hawaii when I was like 13 -- him and Marty Jannetty. It was just one of those things. He was always one of those guys that I said "Hey" to and he said "Hey" -- it's no big deal.
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    This is one time when I don't mind someone refusing to work with another guy. Years ago, Michaels tried to ruin Rock's career and I have no reason to believe Bret would make this up. A lot of guys didn't like Shawn back then and I don't blame Rock for giving HBK his kharma.

    I don't like, however, people like Cornette putting HBK 2002-present under some kind of microscope and dissecting everything he does to the point where they believe it "proves" he's not a changed man. By most accounts, HBK post-2002 has never refused to work with anyone or do a job. He never came to work intoxicated, never threw any tantrums, doesn't do drugs anymore, nor did he ever go off-script in a promo or a match. Even Bret Hart has become friendly with him to a point. So, basically, I'm supposed to believe that because he oversold for Hogan that he hasn't changed? People aren't perfect. They get mad and they make mistakes. HBK is no different.

    I respect both men for different reasons and I feel that HBK was in the wrong back in the day. However, Rock never needed to work with HBK to get where he was, although it might have helped his rise faster. Either way, both guys are legends. It all worked out.

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