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    While this flew under the radar, the WWE made several changes to their Wellness Policy back in July including a new way for talent to have one of their strikes removed against them if they are in danger of being terminated from their contract if they receive a third strike.


    The changes to the company’s Wellness Policy are below:


    - A WWE talent may request a Therapeutic Use Exception (TUE) for a prohibited drug under the policy if such use is for a legitimate medical purpose given pursuant to a valid prescription from a licensed and treating physician of the WWE talent; the use of such prohibited drug is required for more than 60 consecutive days; the medical need for the prescription and for the prescribed dosage is documented in accordance with standards and practices commonly accepted within the United States medical community’ and the medical need is confirmed by the Medical Director.


    - The WWE talent in need of a TUE must immediately notify, or cause his/her issuing physician to notify, the Medical Director of the existance of a prescription for a prohibited drug and the medical need for the TUE. Whenever requested to do so by the Medical Director, the WWE talent shall provide, or cause his/her issuing physician to provide any and all documentation supporting the issuance of the prescription. If requested by the Medical Director, a WWE talent will be examined by physicians/consultants designated by the Medical Director with an expertise in the specific area covered by the prescription. Following the review of all documentation provided by WWE talent and his/her medical team and, if necessary, the results of any medical exams/tests performed by physicians/consultants designated by the Medical Director, the Medical Director shall make a determination as to whether or not a TUE should be granted to a WWE talent. The Medical Director shall report his determination to the WWE Talent, the PA and the WWE.


    - A TUE shall be effective for no more than 1 calendar year (or the remainder of the calendar year then in effect) from the date the WWE talent first notified, or caused his/her issuing physician to first notify, the Medical Director of the need for a TUE and the existence of a prescription for a prohibited drug. The TUE shall not be effective for any use or possession of a prohibited drug prior to that date. After initial issuance, a TUE may be renewed annually, upon request of the WWE talent, if the WWE talent is in full compliance with the terms of the previously issued TUE; the WWE talent provides updated medical documentation necessary to support the continued need for a TUE, and the WWE talent submits to any additional medical tests or exams required by the Medical Director to confirm the continuing need for the TUE.


    - A urine sample which is found to contain a prohibited drug will not be deemed a positive test result if such sample was provided by a WWE talent with a valid and effective TUE for that prohibited drug. A WWE talent with a TUE for a prohibited drug does not violate the Policy by possessing or using that prohibited drug.


    - A WWE talent who is determined not to qualify for a TUE may not challenge a determination that he/she violated the Policy by contending, in connection with a “no fault or negligence” defense or otherwise, that he/she believed he/she would qualify or had qualified for a TUE.


    - Any WWE talent, who is arrested, convicted or who admits to a violation of law relating to use, possession, purchase, sale or distribution of drugs will be in material breach of his/her contract with WWE and subject to immediate dismissal.


    - In the event of a positive test for alcohol, the WWE talent shall be fined $2,500 US Dollars per positive test, which shall be deducted from the WWE talent’s downside guarantee.


    - A WWE talent who has 2 violations under the Policy may, subject to Medical Director approval, enter the Redemption Program. The Redemption Program is an 18 month proccess that requires an initial aassessment conducted by the Medical Director (or, as the case may be, an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director) who will analyze the addiction related issues and health related concerns then being experienced by the WWE talent, develop proposed treatments, therapies and/or support programs that may assist the WWE talent in managing these issues/concerns and determine initial entry date for the WWE talent into the Redemption Program; compliance with the assessment recommendations made by the Medical Director (or, as the case may be, an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director) for the duration of the 18 month program; mandatory unannounced follow-up testing as set forth in Section 8(C) (1) of the Policy; and no violations under the Policy for 18 consecutive months after initial entry into the Redemption Program.


    - Upon successful completion of the Redemption Program, the WWE talent shall request the PA, with the approval of the Medical Director, to delete 1 of the 2 violations of record for such WWE talent. In the event the PA determines in favor of the request, the violation record for such WWE talent will then be amended to reflect the reduction of a violation leaving the WWE talent with only 1 violation under the Policy.


    - Pain medications, and or substances prohibited by this Policy, may be abused at times and can become addictive. A WWE talent who believes that he/she may have a problem with substance abuse is encouraged to self-report and request assistance. No penalties are imposed on the WWE talent for voluntarily acknowledging a problem to the Medical Director prior to a drug test being performed herein and WWE will assist in securing rehabilitation services in such situations. The rehabilitation process can be engaged by a WWE talent notifying the Medical Director, the PA, WWE’s ringside physicians or the WWE Wellness Coordinator that he/she has a problem and needs assistance.

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    This is obviously so that Orton can get one of his violations deleted so if he fails again they don't have to fire him immediately. No wonder they started pushing him again.

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    Sounds like you get 1 year of free steroid cycles.

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    I do believe the Randy Orton thing, but it's a smart business move. He's this generations HBK and I'm sure Hunter knows it and so does Vince. They also know they can't lose him as he has become such a big name and his legacy is cemented in the WWE history books.

    I also find it interesting that they added the drug arrests will end up in a breach of contract and an eventual release of contract. I don't have a problem with any of that. From top to bottom.

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    Firstly I know it's up to the WWE what they do, so their decision is their decision.

    My question is; what was wrong with the amendments they made before? Because I do think this past year was the most successful year of the wellness policy.

    To me, like it has already been mentioned, is for the WWE to get around firing talent who may already-have (and yet to be disclosed) or are about-to-have breached the policy.

    I.e "The Face of the WWE"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kid View Post
    I do believe the Randy Orton thing, but it's a smart business move. He's this generations HBK and I'm sure Hunter knows it and so does Vince. They also know they can't lose him as he has become such a big name and his legacy is cemented in the WWE history books.I also find it interesting that they added the drug arrests will end up in a breach of contract and an eventual release of contract. I don't have a problem with any of that. From top to bottom.
    Are you referring to Orton there?

    However yes, we can officially nick name it the Randy Orton Wellness policy lol.


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    I am very upset. I think that drug use (steriods, HGH etc) should be mandatory in the WWE.
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    ......this is ridiculous.
    That's all, folks.

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    - A WWE talent who has 2 violations under the Policy may, subject to Medical Director approval, enter the Redemption Program. The Redemption Program is an 18 month proccess that requires an initial aassessment conducted by the Medical Director (or, as the case may be, an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director) who will analyze the addiction related issues and health related concerns then being experienced by the WWE talent, develop proposed treatments, therapies and/or support programs that may assist the WWE talent in managing these issues/concerns and determine initial entry date for the WWE talent into the Redemption Program; compliance with the assessment recommendations made by the Medical Director (or, as the case may be, an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director) for the duration of the 18 month program; mandatory unannounced follow-up testing as set forth in Section 8(C) (1) of the Policy; and no violations under the Policy for 18 consecutive months after initial entry into the Redemption Program.
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    Henceforth known as the Randy Orton Amendment.


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    Orton is only a very young 33 years old with many more glorious years ahead of him as face of the company. Just face it if he lost his job TNA would hire him in 24hrs and TNA would be the number one wrestling company in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by spladle125 View Post
    Orton is only a very young 33 years old with many more glorious years ahead of him as face of the company. Just face it if he lost his job TNA would hire him in 24hrs and TNA would be the number one wrestling company in the world
    That's absurd Orton can't carry a company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kid View Post
    I do believe the Randy Orton thing, but it's a smart business move. He's this generations HBK and I'm sure Hunter knows it and so does Vince. They also know they can't lose him as he has become such a big name and his legacy is cemented in the WWE history books.

    I also find it interesting that they added the drug arrests will end up in a breach of contract and an eventual release of contract. I don't have a problem with any of that. From top to bottom.
    I can't see the comparison between Orton and HBK... HBK is legitimately one of the greatest in ring workers in this business, even with his asshole nature, and that's something Orton isn't even close to.

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    Well Orton and Michaels could never carry a company and be the "face" or "Flagship" so to speak. Letting Orton go would not exactly be the end of the world. This guy is the Ratings Killer afterall. I don't care how many times commentators or Triple H want to call this guy "the face of the company". Look at Smackdown's ratings when he was world champ, look at the Raw Ratings now.. Not exactly someone you can put Faith in as carrying the show.. Sorry

    I think it just boils down to the fact hes a good friend of Triple H.. The numbers clearly show though he can't carry the ball as theee top guy.. Unless you want to keep your television ratings in the toilet but eventually you will have to answer to the networks

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    I realize that everybody jumped to immediate "THIS IS SO THEY CAN PUSH RANDY ORTON" conclusions, but really, this makes a lot of sense in general. There's no reason to have a three strikes rule over what could be a 20-year span. I've thought they should have some sort of way to drop a strike for years. Isn't it better for these guys to submit to a more stringent program immediately after their mistakes than to still be on thin ice 10-15 years later for mistakes they made in their 20's?

    This could come in handy when Jeff Hardy inevitably comes back down the line as well. There's quite a few guys on strike 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I realize that everybody jumped to immediate "THIS IS SO THEY CAN PUSH RANDY ORTON" conclusions, but really, this makes a lot of sense in general. There's no reason to have a three strikes rule over what could be a 20-year span. I've thought they should have some sort of way to drop a strike for years. Isn't it better for these guys to submit to a more stringent program immediately after their mistakes than to still be on thin ice 10-15 years later for mistakes they made in their 20's?

    This could come in handy when Jeff Hardy inevitably comes back down the line as well. There's quite a few guys on strike 2.
    There is a better solution: Don't reach your third strike during a 20-year span.

    If you manage to stay clean 10-15 years later, then you deserve some trust back.

    EDIT: I should point out that I don't believe this is exclusively about Randy Orton, I'm sure there are more examples of the Wellness Policy getting in the way of what WWE wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwolf View Post
    There is a better solution: Don't reach your third strike during a 20-year span.

    If you manage to stay clean 10-15 years later, then you deserve some trust back.

    EDIT: I should point out that I don't believe this is exclusively about Randy Orton, I'm sure there are more examples of the Wellness Policy getting in the way of what WWE wants.
    Well, sure, but there's plenty of guys who fuck up when they're younger. There's no point in holding guys back because they have two strikes from violations 5-10 years ago. If the Wellness Policy is really designed to protect these guys, then it should do just that.

    I mean, guys, realistically, if WWE didn't have a Wellness Policy, it wouldn't even matter. We're past Benoit, they could fold it up tomorrow and go full TNA on us.

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    Like I said, if these young guys manage to stay clear for so long after the fact, they should have earned their trust back, that is a much better way than creating a program that can totally be abused.

    And if WWE didn't have a wellness policy it would matter to me, I don't want to see wrestlers enjoy nice booking and paychecks while doing the sort of things it's supposed to prevent, and I want to see them die young much less. If there is the possibility that the policy has prevented some deaths, then it's all worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwolf View Post
    Like I said, if these young guys manage to stay clear for so long after the fact, they should have earned their trust back, that is a much better way than creating a program that can totally be abused.

    And if WWE didn't have a wellness policy it would matter to me, I don't want to see wrestlers enjoy nice booking and paychecks while doing the sort of things it's supposed to prevent, and I want to see them die young much less. If there is the possibility that the policy has prevented some deaths, then it's all worth it.
    How can it be abused? Are they going to go through this program and then start pill-popping a year and a half later and have to go through the whole thing all over again?

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    It's basically giving them a fourth strike. Sure, the regulations they would have to go through for a year are nice, but shouldn't this sort of thing be mandatory after you get your second strike?
    That's all, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I realize that everybody jumped to immediate "THIS IS SO THEY CAN PUSH RANDY ORTON" conclusions, but really, this makes a lot of sense in general. There's no reason to have a three strikes rule over what could be a 20-year span. I've thought they should have some sort of way to drop a strike for years. Isn't it better for these guys to submit to a more stringent program immediately after their mistakes than to still be on thin ice 10-15 years later for mistakes they made in their 20's?

    This could come in handy when Jeff Hardy inevitably comes back down the line as well. There's quite a few guys on strike 2.
    I'm kinda glad I wasn't the only one who didn't see this new policy as a terrible thing because Randy Orton.

    Randy Orton is second to only Triple H for being jumped on and mugged whenever something vaguely related to him comes up on PW.

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    Chris Masters in his last run was still on strike 2 from his previous run, despite having been clean for years by that point. I'm sure he'd have loved to have those strikes taken away.
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    I haven't read the policy but if you get fired, can you be rehired immediately with a clean slate?
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    If you've got two strikes and then get a third, you're immediately fired. BUT they can then rehire you a year later (though you still have two strikes against you). So before this change, if Orton had failed again he would've been gone from WWE for only a year before they could rehire him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
    If you've got two strikes and then get a third, you're immediately fired. BUT they can then rehire you a year later (though you still have two strikes against you). So before this change, if Orton had failed again he would've been gone from WWE for only a year before they could rehire him.
    Ahhh gotcha.

    Screw it, if he gets three strikes then he should be fired. The wellness policy was supposedly brought in to protect the wrestlers from self destruction. Amending it simply dilutes its importance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwolf View Post
    There is a better solution: Don't reach your third strike during a 20-year span.
    B-I-N-G-O.... That right there is the plain and simple solution. Obey the policy. It's not difficult. Here's a simple rule of thumb for you.

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