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    Default Bad TLC 12' Buyrate, Botch at Houseshow hurts Punk

    Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

    The latest WWE estimates for the WWE TLC PPV on 12/16 has the show doing 71,000 buys domestic and 99,000 buys international for a total of 170,000 buys. This would be the lowest domestic buyrate for a WWE PPV all year in 2012 and ties the 2010 Bragging Rights PPV as the third worst domestic number in modern history.

    Given how well some of the "B" WWE PPV events were drawing in 2012 it was considered a big surprise as to how low the domestic total was for the final event of the year.
    WWE star CM Punk took a bad bump getting dropped on his head while taking a suplex from The Miz on Saturday night at the WWE live event in Springfield, Missouri. The incident went down during the tag team main event featuring Punk tagging with WWE United States Champion Antonio Cesaro vs. Miz and Ryback. Punk rolled out of the ring shortly after taking the bad bump and was later helped to the back by WWE officials.

    Early reports are that Punk was sore, but was expected to be okay and work tonight in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.
    Credit: ewrestlingnews

    No WWE Champion at the TLC PPV is a good enough reason why the buyrate was horrible. Hopefully CM Punk is OK. I read this report on another site with a fan report saying that Miz was telling the referee to check on Punk during the match. I'm a bit alarmed by all of the comments regarding this matter on various news sites with some fans suggesting WWE firing Miz for this.


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    let the burial of the Miz continue.. I can see Phil in the back going told you he sucks

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    He won't be fired, but this won't be good for him.

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    Default Re: Bad TLC 12' Buyrate, Botch at Houseshow hurts Punk

    Mr. Mizanin might be back in the dog house... we all know how long he was there after dropping Truth, this could be even worse. Accidents happen, but expect The Miz to have 'jobber' status for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    He won't be fired, but this won't be good for him.
    Off course not. Didn't he get depushed by botching a move with R Truth.
    And I don't see punk giving Miz any slack so yeah Miz is in trouble.

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    Oh Miz

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    So it looks like Miz TV will be cancelled also

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    Survivor Series also bombed and it had Cena, Ryback and Punk in the main event. There was impatience in the audience at the end of the year, I think everyone just wanted to get everything out of the way and get to Rock/Punk. The booking rendered the fall year pretty irrelevant, and they paid the price.

    As for Miz, you can't fuck up a suplex. I mean for goodness sake.

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    Botching a suplex is hard. I hope some footage surfaces.

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    Why would they have Miz do a stalling suplex?

    CM Punk has been bitching about Miz for years. I doubt he went to the back silently. Miz has dealt with getting yelled at before for a botch as well as being teased by the veterans. He won't let this get to him.

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    I hope Punk went fucking ballistic. That could end a career.

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    Never really been a fan of the Miz so I for one wouldn't mind seeing him taken out of the spotlight a little bit. Gives someone else the chance to shine I guess.

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    If I were in charge I would give Miz 2 options:

    1. Work on commentary for the rest of your WWE career(I think its the only thing he excels at)
    2. Youuu're Fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Nichols View Post
    If I were in charge I would give Miz 2 options:

    1. Work on commentary for the rest of your WWE career(I think its the only thing he excels at)
    2. Youuu're Fired.
    Why would WWE fire him with TNA going on the road? Miz has a following despite being despised by hardcore fans. Firing Miz would be a horrible decision for WWE to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Valuable View Post
    Why would WWE fire him with TNA going on the road? Miz has a following despite being despised by hardcore fans. Firing Miz would be a horrible decision for WWE to make.
    Miz isn't enough to make a difference for TNA, I'm sure WWE would care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Nichols View Post
    Miz isn't enough to make a difference for TNA, I'm sure WWE would care less.
    I don't know about that. Miz is a well known figure in WWE as well in the mainstream.

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    If Jeff Hardy couldn't make a difference, Miz won't do shit.

    They won't just give up on a guy that they've invested so much time and effort into, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Valuable View Post
    I don't know about that. Miz is a well known figure in WWE as well in the mainstream.
    If RVD, Hardy, Christian, Angle, Hogan etc had no drastic changes to the TNA fan base, there's literally zero chance Miz will.

    And this is coming from a huge Miz fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Valuable View Post
    I don't know about that. Miz is a well known figure in WWE as well in the mainstream.

    I would assume the majority of Miz fans are younger WWE first fans and have no idea TNA exists.

    Like I said I think Miz could make a great career for himself in commentary. He can still host MizTV segment and get furniture thrown onto his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David*Dream* View Post
    If RVD, Hardy, Christian, Angle, Hogan etc had no drastic changes to the TNA fan base, there's literally zero chance Miz will.

    And this is coming from a huge Miz fan.
    Where they going on the road then? No. Going on the road will do major things for TNA. I always felt that I didn't matter who they brought in -- if they didn't go on the road it wouldn't mean shit.

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    Hopefully Punk is ok. That is scary. Thanks for the reports.

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    Miz fucking sucks in every way...I don't know why anyone likes him.

    And PPVs are just too expensive...I used to get them every month, now its once a year for me...only Mania, the rest I just watch in other ways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BadNewsFan View Post
    Miz fucking sucks in every way...I don't know why anyone likes him.

    And PPVs are just too expensive...I used to get them every month, now its once a year for me...only Mania, the rest I just watch in other ways.
    I agree. They are expensive and there are too many of them. I ordered one PPV last year and it happened to be TLC LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Valuable View Post
    Where they going on the road then? No. Going on the road will do major things for TNA. I always felt that I didn't matter who they brought in -- if they didn't go on the road it wouldn't mean shit.
    Hiring Miz will still have zero affect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    If Jeff Hardy couldn't make a difference, Miz won't do shit.

    They won't just give up on a guy that they've invested so much time and effort into, though.
    To be fair, they had invested a huge deal of time and effort into Kennedy before they canned him for supposedly being unsafe.

    Granted, he was never WWE Champion and never won the main event of WrestleMania, and I don't think Miz's job is in danger. But I wouldn't be surprised if they ease up a bit on his push.

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