*merged* Cena/Torch Passing/Who Should it Be?

**Stefan** · 12-13-2012, 09:37 AM

- John Cena continues to work pretty banged up. There is more and more talk that Cena’s time as the full-time top star isn’t going to last forever. There’s a feeling that he will do main event storylines for as long as his body holds up and then probably work a schedule where he wouldn’t always be on top but be saved for a few big matches and then eventually begin a part-time role.

The time frame of all this obviously depends on his body more than anything else but it’s now being said that there is probably at least one more face of WWE that will be chosen by Vince McMahon before Vince hands over all power to Triple H and Stephanie McMahon.

- Right now, Dean Ambrose is the guy WWE officials want to build into a headliner once the angle with The Shield has run its course. At the same time, there are some in the company who think Roman Reigns has the most potential of the three. There’s also a feeling that Reigns isn’t ready as far as in-ring skills go but Ambrose and Seth Rollins are.

http://www.wrestlenewz.com/wrestling...-future-vince/

**The Champ** · 12-13-2012, 09:48 AM

This doesn't really say anything about who exactly they want to be the number one face after Cena's done.

I still think it may well be someone who's not even in the company right now.

**Falcone** · 12-13-2012, 10:05 AM

Going by HHH's behaviour, even he doesn't know who he wants to be the next big guy.

"Seth Rollins has my seal of approval!" *looks to the left* "OOH! Big E. Langston has my seal of approval! Screw that other guy!"

**Justin Valuable** · 12-13-2012, 10:09 AM

WWE should scale back Cena's work schedule. Instead of focusing on a new super face to push WWE should take a page out of the playbook and push a dominant heel like they do with Triple H in 2000 and I guess even 2002-2003. WWE has a lot of good faces, but none of them can be pushed at the rate Cena was from 2005 to the present. The heel that they should push hard is Damien Sandow. He can talk, wrestle, and generate heat. If pushed hard he's the time of a heel where fans would pay and be eager to see a face beat -- similar to Triple H in 2000 and 2002-2003. The best part about this is Sandow was trained by the same guy that trained HHH and HHH would be backstage helping/steering Sandow. A company doesn't always need a super face to carry the company.

**The Main Event** · 12-13-2012, 12:20 PM

Here's my question....

Does there really need to be a "Number One" guy?

I get that it's traditionally the case. But look at the most popular era ever, who was THE guy? Austin? Rock? Undertaker? There were a few guys. So why is there a need for a #1 with such importance? I get that you need the big name that if you beat makes you a star...but, is it that necessary? If someone beats Undertaker or John Cena or Sheamus now, are they not considered someone important already? You don't need a ONE guy to do that if you book things properly.

**Falcone** · 12-13-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by The Main Event

Here's my question....

Does there really need to be a "Number One" guy?

I get that it's traditionally the case. But look at the most popular era ever, who was THE guy? Austin? Rock? Undertaker? There were a few guys. So why is there a need for a #1 with such importance? I get that you need the big name that if you beat makes you a star...but, is it that necessary? If someone beats Undertaker or John Cena or Sheamus now, are they not considered someone important already? You don't need a ONE guy to do that if you book things properly.

Austin. Undoubtedly. He was closing shows weekly. He was the companies biggest merchandise seller. He was the companies premier attraction and the horse they used to carry the Attitude brand. Austin was the number 1. Rock was #2. Foley was #3.

The difference is that back then, even though Austin was THE guy, they had The Rock, Foley, and in 2000 Jericho to put butts in seats. It wasn't the Austin show. It was The WWF. It's something this company has forgotten. It shouldn't be the John Cena show, it should be the WWE, featuring all these guys you want to watch.

**Djm** · 12-13-2012, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Main Event

Here's my question....

Does there really need to be a "Number One" guy?

I get that it's traditionally the case. But look at the most popular era ever, who was THE guy? Austin? Rock? Undertaker? There were a few guys. So why is there a need for a #1 with such importance? I get that you need the big name that if you beat makes you a star...but, is it that necessary? If someone beats Undertaker or John Cena or Sheamus now, are they not considered someone important already? You don't need a ONE guy to do that if you book things properly.

I agree with all of the things you just said.

However, WWE is pretty myopic in their booking. To them, it is ONE guy with a bunch of number twos right underneath.

Of course, people will go along with whatever they do regardless. BT-Dubs, WWE...

ALEX RILEY IS STILL WITH YOUR COMPANY!!!!

**Ice** · 12-13-2012, 12:54 PM

Alex Riley? Really Deej?

**merle** · 12-13-2012, 01:01 PM

Alex Riley? OMG. I thought he was dead.

**Falcone** · 12-13-2012, 01:02 PM

Yeah! Riley sucks! He couldn't stay over after WWE gave him a 3 week feud with Ziggler then proceeded to do nothing with him! He clearly can't cut it in WWE!

**The Industry** · 12-13-2012, 01:06 PM

There next Number One Guy isn't even born yet, probably.

They have Chris Hero RIGHT there and don't know what to do with him and he is too old for them

**Ice** · 12-13-2012, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Falcone

Yeah! Riley sucks! He couldn't stay over after WWE gave him a 3 week feud with Ziggler then proceeded to do nothing with him! He clearly can't cut it in WWE!

Its not that. I dont think one way or another about him. It just seemed hella random.

**Falcone** · 12-13-2012, 01:14 PM

Just saying, a lot of people complain Riley couldn't get over after he left Miz. I recall Dolph Ziggler ended up getting shoved down the card after his awful feud with Morrison ("MR ZIGGLES!!!"), and Baretta and McIntyre got shoved right off the card because their one month love triangle with Kelly Kelly involving Drew squashing Trent repeatedly wasn't getting madly over like they anticipated. Is that their fault? No, it was the godawful booking around the angles. Riley got off a hot feud with the Miz, to... I am Face, You are Heel with Dolph Ziggler for 3 weeks, then nothing. You can't have a hot angle with someone, and then expect that person to stay over in a lackluster angle right after it. RIley and Miz should have kept feuding into Summerslam, with a big blowoff No DQ match. It could have been an awesome 2-3 month feud, that the company fucked over because who the fuck knows.

**Djm** · 12-13-2012, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ice

Alex Riley? Really Deej?

Yes, really. He has the WWE look, plus, for whatever reason, he was hotter than hell after his feud with Miz. People WANTED to get behind the guy.

Than whatever happened, happened. And he disappeared.

**Stefan** · 12-13-2012, 01:23 PM

Problem with Alex Riley is that he's a 31 year old with a gimmick suitable for a 19-20 year old.

**Djm** · 12-13-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Stefan

Problem with Alex Riley is that he's a 31 year old with a gimmick suitable for a 19-20 year old.

CM Punk is 32 and his gimmick is suitable for a 19-20 year old.

My point is that they've had a guy in the company that they could've started grooming already, but they either chose not to or didn't see it, partially because they've spent so much of their energy and effort over the years making sure John Cena looks like a demigod and now they don't have a plan post-Cena.

**TGO** · 12-13-2012, 01:28 PM

I agree with most of your sentiment, Deej. Alex Riley wasn't the guy, though. At least, not in my view. I never liked anything about him.

**Djm** · 12-13-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by TGO

I agree with most of your sentiment, Deej. Alex Riley wasn't the guy, though. At least, not in my view. I never liked anything about him.

I was never that into the guy myself, but I saw the reactions he got post-Miz-feud, and it stood out to me. I didn't get it, but it was there.

**spear** · 12-13-2012, 01:49 PM

Riley was red hot when he fueded with Miz i was behind the guy 100 percent and once he ended his fued with Miz I was happy he was going into a angle with Ziggler I thought it would be great but unfourtnally it didn't end well. And since then A-Ry has not done anything

He could have been a great midcarder maybe even a upper midcarder but wwe fucked up. Thanks WWE for ruining a red hot face.

**Benson** · 12-13-2012, 02:03 PM

Anybody who was in Alex Riley's spot against the Miz at that point, would have gotten over. Alex Riley however, could not generate heat on his own, without the machine behind him.

**Ice** · 12-13-2012, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Djm

Yes, really. He has the WWE look, plus, for whatever reason, he was hotter than hell after his feud with Miz. People WANTED to get behind the guy.

Than whatever happened, happened. And he disappeared.

Didn't he go down with injury?

**spear** · 12-13-2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ice

Didn't he go down with injury?

He went down because he snapped back at Cena.

**Djm** · 12-13-2012, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Joe L.

Anybody who was in Alex Riley's spot against the Miz at that point, would have gotten over. Alex Riley however, could not generate heat on his own, without the machine behind him.

You could say that about pretty much anyone in the company save for about 3 people.

**The Main Event** · 12-13-2012, 02:43 PM

....Who would have thought.

A thread about who's the next "#1"....and it becomes a debate on Alex Riley

**KLockard23** · 12-13-2012, 03:01 PM

Cena can't be on top for much longer. The universe has a way of working these things out, and Cena has been "The Guy" for over half a decade. It's only a matter of time before someone new steps up.

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