"WWE Product"

[The_Boss]

OK. I get it. There are people out there who will defend WWE no matter how bad it is just like there are people who will vote for Obama no matter how bad he is. But will you stop calling it "wrestling"? Even Vince hates that term. In fact Vince barely even uses the term "sports entertainment" anymore because it sounds too much like sport/wrestling. I propose that from now on we just refer to it as "WWE Product". There really is no other way to describe it. Vince says it's not wrestling, wrestling fans say it's not wrestling. So why don't the people who supposedly support it agree?

"WWE Product". That's what it should be called.

[Crippler]

Nah, that's cool. I'll vote for Obama and call WWE pro wrestling. Thanks for trying to condescend, though.

[Lony]

I could careless about what Vince think's of the term "wrestling", to me that's what it's always been since I started watching (89) and it's what it will always be to me.

[Doc Wallaby]

Two questions. Well, make that three.

1) Why does this thread exist?
2) Why did you mention Obama?
3) Why should we care what you think of the nomenclature of WWE's product?

[The_Boss]

Two questions. Well, make that three.

1) Why does this thread exist?
2) Why did you mention Obama?
3) Why should we care what you think of the nomenclature of WWE's product?

Good. That's one. Who else will start calling it "WWE Product"?

[Crippler]

What does that even mean?

[Doc Wallaby]

I think my mathematical skills are just fine. I said, and I quote, "Two questions. Well, make that three." And then I asked three questions. See? Like the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop. A-one, a-two, a-three.

Now, please explain to me why this thread exists, why you're baiting people with your Obama comment, and why we should care what you think. Pretty please?

Also, "WWE's product" is a term I've been using for years, and is significantly different from what you're suggesting ("WWE Product"). While I'm "learning" math, perhaps you should study up on your English? (Nice job editing away your comment, bee tee dub.)

[Crippler]

Because something something HOLLYWOOD HOMELESS HOGAN something something.

[The_Boss]

I could careless about what Vince think's of the term "wrestling", to me that's what it's always been since I started watching (89) and it's what it will always be to me.

It's not just what he thinks of the term, but his product isn't even pro wrestling anymore. It's overly scripted material that is written by hollywood writers. Nothing is called in the ring anymore and no one plays to the crowd. In fact the only thing that seems to matter in the "matches" is the entrance and the finish. The fans barely even pay attention to the "match" and spend more time texting.

In pro wrestling the majority of the match is called in the ring and the match is determined by the responce of the fans. In "WWE Product" every step is written before hand (even how many steps they take before tuning their head in their entrance) and it is followed to the letter regardless if the fans are into it or not.

So again. It's not wrestling, it's just "WWE Product".

[Dose]

When I read "WWE Product" I think meth packaged in a WWE logo baggy (baggie?).

[Falcone]

2 questions

1: Why should we start using your term for Wrestling.

2: How did you manage to slip Obama in there, and leave out HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN?

[The_Boss]

2 questions

1: Why should we start using your term for Wrestling.

I answered that one already. Twice in fact. But to put it short... to respect the sport of Pro Wrestling.

2: How did you manage to slip Obama in there, and leave out HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN?

I didn't mention HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN because this thread is not about TNA or Pro Wrestling.

[Dose]

I answered that one already. Twice in fact. But to put it short... to respect the sport of Pro Wrestling.

I didn't mention HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN because this thread is not about TNA or Pro Wrestling.

So it has to do with Obama but not Hogan? Got it!

[Bristowj]

Its a hard to get a grip on the product, i've tried. No hate but WWE has lost its touch i think.....

I know some would disagree....But you take an average person, never watching wrestling....never heard of WWF, WCW, TNA.....you sit them down to watch an episode of Raw, and an episode of Impact wrestling.....And i guarantee that person would think Raw is the newer show and company still trying to make a name for themselves....Its just sloppy and unorganized...

lol Again reminds me of WCW before they shut down...


I've tried to be a fan and get some kind of grip on they're "product"...but its hard....

Guys like Punk and Cena are over-pushed.....

Jim Ross is the most annoying anouncer maybe of all time, which doesn't help the current product..

And storyline wise, they continue to copy from TNA, and not just the recent "love affair" angle with AJ and Cena..

[Djm]

Its a hard to get a grip on the product, i've tried. No hate but WWE has lost its touch i think.....

I know some would disagree....But you take an average person, never watching wrestling....never heard of WWF, WCW, TNA.....you sit them down to watch an episode of Raw, and an episode of Impact wrestling.....And i guarantee that person would think Raw is the newer show and company still trying to make a name for themselves....Its just sloppy and unorganized...

lol Again reminds me of WCW before they shut down...


I've tried to be a fan and get some kind of grip on they're "product"...but its hard....

Guys like Punk and Cena are over-pushed.....

Jim Ross is the most annoying anouncer maybe of all time, which doesn't help the current product..

And storyline wise, they continue to copy from TNA, and not just the recent "love affair" angle with AJ and Cena..

Make a video and put it on YouTube and link it here. I wanna see it.

[HilaryFan]

Why do I keep coming back to the WWE section of PW? Can anyone give me one good reason why I keep putting myself through this?

[Djm]

Why do I keep coming back to the WWE section of PW? Can anyone give me one good reason why I keep putting myself through this?

It's fun. Like watching Ricky Gervais & Stephen Merchant let Karl Pilkington talk.

[Falcone]

Why do I keep coming back to the WWE section of PW? Can anyone give me one good reason why I keep putting myself through this?

Because you like to complain about everything in this part of PW.

[El Maestro]

It's fun. Like watching Ricky Gervais & Stephen Merchant let Karl Pilkington talk.

Bwahahhaahahahahah! True gold.

I gotta spread some more rep around.

[LS]

I know some would disagree....But you take an average person, never watching wrestling....never heard of WWF, WCW, TNA.....you sit them down to watch an episode of Raw, and an episode of Impact wrestling.....And i guarantee that person would think Raw is the newer show and company still trying to make a name for themselves....Its just sloppy and unorganized...

Jim Ross is the most annoying anouncer maybe of all time, which doesn't help the current product..

Taz says hello..

And storyline wise, they continue to copy from TNA, and not just the recent "love affair" angle with AJ and Cena..

As I said in another thread, TNA is the one who uses WWE for their storylines and mentions them all the time. A lot of their material is based on WWE history. They even had an entire angle based around Hulk's WWE Hall of Fame ring...

[The_Boss]

As I said in another thread, TNA is the one who uses WWE for their storylines and mentions them all the time. A lot of their material is based on WWE history. They even had an entire angle based around Hulk's WWE Hall of Fame ring...

So? HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is a Hall of Famer and he was in TNA at the time. How is that any different to WWE recognizing Flair as a 16 time World champion when he only held two in WWE?

[Crippler]

Why does WWE copying TNA ONE TIME suddenly mean every WWE storyline ever is a direct ripoff of TNA?

AND WHAT THE FUCK DOES OBAMA HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?!

[LS]

So? HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is a Hall of Famer and he was in TNA at the time. How is that any different to WWE recognizing Flair as a 16 time World champion when he only held two in WWE?

The angle was based around his WWE hall of fame ring. Why promote WWE's HOF?

[Crippler]

It's fun. Like watching Ricky Gervais & Stephen Merchant let Karl Pilkington talk.

Ricky and Steve are cunts, but I agree, Karl is hilarious. This is just sad.

[Falcone]

So? HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is a Hall of Famer and he was in TNA at the time. How is that any different to WWE recognizing Flair as a 16 time World champion when he only held two in WWE?

WWE owned WCW where most of Rics title wins happened, so, yeah, of course they would bring it up.

Does TNA own WWE's Hall of Fame?