ryback not really dominate

[mattsheliine]

ok guys is it just me or by the week i know they are making him out to be a monster but i was at a house show where he had problems picking up heyman. granted heyman didnt help matters any but it was his fourth attempt before he got him up. he has also had problems with tensai. is that why they are paring him with the smaller of the two champions i dont know. thoughts?

[Codebreaker]

I read about that. He doesn't seem as strong as they make him out to be. Yeah, he can swing Punk around but that guy isn't even heavy. Doesn't seem like he can really throw around the bigger guys like Cena does.

[RT]

There's a real difference between lifting an athletic person that jumps onto your shoulders for you and a fat guy that decides he's going to be dead weight. Yeah, it was a botch, but you're both reaching here.

EDIT: skip to 5:40 to see the Heyman thing.

[Codebreaker]

I have read the Punk/Ryback matches are good, hopefully this Sunday the main event will be decent.

[mattsheliine]

i look forward to it being decent and im not reaching this isnt the first time hes had problems

[Coco]

Are you two implying that a business is embellishing the strengths of its product to make money? I'm shocked!

[RT]

i look forward to it being decent and im not reaching this isnt the first time hes had problems

True. He did fuck up Gorilla Pressing that couch when he confronted Miz. Then again, couches are terrible workers.

[mattsheliine]

i think tensai is an ok worker not great

[RT]

i think tensai is an ok worker not great

It's official, folks: Lord Tensai is a couch.

[Codebreaker]

And like a couch, we get tired of it and get a new one. I think we need a new Tensai.

[merle]

This is why Ryback needs to add another finisher. He needs something else that he can perform on anyone regardless of their size. Lets face it, he can't perform shellshock on someone like Big Show. I don't know what to add though. If he uses the spear, the Goldberg chants would be deafening and I just don't think a submission move would fit his character. MAybe he could steal the Pedigree and name it something else. Trips isn't using it anymore. And yes, that thought only occured to me while looking at codebreakers sig while I was writing this.

[Kane]

Well at least we know that he can put on a decent match. Right i'm buying Hell in a Cell.

[oWn]

I think the strongest guy iv ever seen in the ring is Lesnar. I remember he picked up Mark Henry one time for the F5 like he was nothing, and me and my brother were both wondering if he could just do a half ass'd F5....he turned around and F5'd him like he was Billy Kidman lol. Ryback is "convincing" to me that hes strong but hes not Lesnar

[HilaryFan]

Lesnar and Goldberg were one in a hundred thousand genetic freaks. Its true Ryback is not these men but hes still awesome. The way he manhandled Punk was the absolute bee knees

[Froggy]

It's official, folks: Lord Tensai is a couch.

It's true in sofa as they're both not that mobile.

Sofa. So far. So. Far.

...forget it!

[Ezekial]

Yea I agree that Tensai is not as strong as they push him but I stil want him to be WWE champion because I just love chanting feed me more. But I agree WWE needs true power houses like Ezekial, Khali, Henry, test, Viscera, heidenreich etc.

[Doc Wallaby]

Are you two implying that a business is embellishing the strengths of its product to make money? I'm shocked!

Noooooooo, never!

I think that people are blowing the Tensai and Heyman botches out of proportion: it's difficult to lift someone of that size safely (or at all) when they are doing nothing to help you. And heck, even Brock Lesnar has botched when someone sandbagged on him--and that was a 235-pounder on a standard powerbomb--to far more disastrous results. However, yes, he does need a secondary finisher for opponents too large to effectively Shellshock. I mean, the Meathook Clothesline is hard-hitting and all, but ... it's still not enough. I mean, look at Sheamus: he has used the Irish Curse, High Cross, White Noise, Irish Cloverleaf, and Brogue Kick as his finisher, and adapts to fit the situation. While I don't think that Ryback needs to have five finishing moves, it doesn't hurt to have one or two extra for special situations.

But him being weak is as ludicrous as the belief that WWE doesn't misrepresent the strength of all their stars.

[Spawn]

It was the same case with Batista, a big guy with tons of muscles, but in couldn't match up to people like Brock Lesnar or John Cena in raw strength. However, this is wrestling, so long as you can convince the crowd your the biggest, strongest wrestler on the card then thats okay. I'm not a huge Ryback fan, but he's definatley beliavable in his role.

On a sidenote, God, I remember Brock Lesnar throw around The Big Show at the 2003 Royal Rumble, the way he was moving him like it was nothing, I've never seen anything like it. The man must be decdent of Hercules or something.

[mattsheliine]

i understand guys sandbag guys they dont like and well i dont think heyman likes ryback. its time for mark henry to come back and show what power trully is. im trying to think of another move for ryback also it just doesnt come to mind its weird i think he does need another one though.

[Oncall]

Ryback had no problem Shellshocking Tensai when Tensai did what he was supposed to do, in terms of strength Ryback is perfectly fine but people love blowing things out of proportion when they aren't a fan of somebody.

[mattsheliine]

thats just it i love ryback i just dont think he is anywhere near ready to be in the title picture

[spear]

thats just it i love ryback i just dont think he is anywhere near ready to be in the title picture

You could be right. But he was there only option, they could not ask foley too do it. So they had too go with ryback. I for one am glad hes got this massive chance. I know when you push a guy too quick. he could use up all his momentum in one big push then fade away. But if they have the right booking ryback could become a legit main eventer.

[mattsheliine]

spear i completly agree with you but i think its too soon and im concerned about rybacks staying power and he wasnt their only option they had a few other options. they could have pushed show to that title and ziggler to the whc. i know they couldnt ask foley to do it im thankful that they didnt

[Coco]

they could not ask foley too do it. So they had too go with ryback.

Why?

[Soulblazed]

Yea after seeing that video The Ryback has earned a new nickname "Can't Lift Heyman"...I do like his character, yet he does need a secondary finisher..Maybe he could use Batista/Lesnar's Spinebuster..