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    Default Austin Says Sheamus Not ready

    http://www.fightingspiritmagazine.co...isnt-ready-yet

    Take it with a pinch of salt.

    Do you think Sheamus is ready to go into WWE title Picture? The guy entertains me but he becomming too much like Cena, Think he just needs to stay away from the comedy and Continue more of a badass route. Abit like Austin did. Also i'm not sure how much he is draw so how do you improve his drawing ability?

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    I agree with Austin. WWE's roster depth isn't up to par in terms of having multiple HOF guys around to carry the company. Not only to have great feuds with each other, but also to build new stars. Guys in their 20's like Taker, Cena, Lesnar, Rock, and Orton jumped off the page in terms of superstar material. But that process was accelerated with the HOF level talent around to build them up. And on a weak roster they would stand out more, but with multiple HOF level talent around to feud with, it makes for more compelling action. For example, Taker went over Hogan when Hogan was in his prime in WWE. And became the youngest WWE champ of all time. But the key to me was WWF had multiple HOF level talent around at that time. WWE's roster was SO EPIC at that time that Vince could have picked any number of legends to go over Hulk. But he picked Taker. Even though Taker's reign was a cup of coffee, he became an immediate superstar because of going over Hogan.

    Sheamus doesn't really jump off the page like Cena or Lesnar did for whatever reason. If anything, it's because of the IF factor. I do feel Sheamus has IT, but not on the level of those two let alone Orton, Taker, or Rock. But to make matters worse, WWE doesn't have enough HOF level talent around full time to help build him up. In terms of guys who are full time or close to full time, WWE just has Cena, Rey, Orton, Kane, and Show who are legit HOF legend material. Now compare this to rosters who had a minimum of ten HOF level stars from feds like WWE, ECW, WCW, AWA, or JCP-NWA that were often times under one roof in WWF or WWE. In the deepest eras you had 15-20 HOF type legends when u factor legendary tag teams. So I don't blame Sheamus just like Austin said. But when u aren't prodigy material like a Goldberg AND u don't have a deep roster to build u up, it takes longer to be perceived as a true superstar by legends in the industry. Or for people like us on this site who are true students of the game and not casual fans.
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    Default Re: Austin Says Sheamus Not ready

    If Randy Orton has 'it', I want Sheamus to stay as far away from 'it' as possible.

    Unfortunately for Sheamus I just don't think he gets over well on the mic. His Irish accent is a bit boy-ish - he could do with sounding more like Finlay. I think his promos really hold him back. He is a superb worker though.

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    Default Re: Austin Says Sheamus Not ready

    He is a very good worker, sometimes great...Not a Poster Boy

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    I agree that the belts need to be unified as soon as possible. At this point the WHC has almost no credibility as a world title

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    If Randy Orton has 'it', I want Sheamus to stay as far away from 'it' as possible.

    Unfortunately for Sheamus I just don't think he gets over well on the mic. His Irish accent is a bit boy-ish - he could do with sounding more like Finlay. I think his promos really hold him back. He is a superb worker though.
    Guys like Goldberg, Andre, Lesnar, and Taker got over HUGE without mic skills. Some guys have so much of an it factor that they don't need great mic skills. And once Orton got to Evolution, he had the IT factor big time to me, more than Sheamus had EVER had at the same point in their careers. And Orton was boosted early on by being associated with legends like HHH and Flair. And having a deep ass roster of HOF level talent from WCW, ECW, and WWE to help build him up in his formative years.

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    I completely back the idea of unifying the titles. I would love to see the storyline for that and the resulting match. If done right, it could be really awesome.

    Personally, I like Sheamus' promos and he's kick-ass in the ring. His brawling style is fun as fuck.

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    Sheamus was force fed to fans a bit which I feel hurt him....however there is nothing wrong with being a solid upper mid-card guy who can put on some very good matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    If Randy Orton has 'it', I want Sheamus to stay as far away from 'it' as possible.

    Unfortunately for Sheamus I just don't think he gets over well on the mic. His Irish accent is a bit boy-ish - he could do with sounding more like Finlay. I think his promos really hold him back. He is a superb worker though.
    Maybe thats it, The accent, that should improve with time. I remember when HHH on the mic sounded like a two year old speaking. But improve with time. The guy does just ossse charisma. I think a problem is that Sheamus hasn't had the feud that made him. I look him and he looks like the perfect wrestler but yet somethink is just missing atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HilaryFan View Post
    I agree that the belts need to be unified as soon as possible. At this point the WHC has almost no credibility as a world title
    As someone who's supported the brand separation and the existence of two titles for years ... I think you're right. WWE has so thoroughly destroyed the credibility of the brand extension and the dual world champions since 2007 that it's time to just give it up. When the World Champion plays second fiddle to both the WWE Champion on Raw, and the Tag Champions on Smackdown, you know something is wrong.

    If WWE were to truly reinvest in the brand split (which I always felt was good for business if done well), that would be different. But it's not going to happen.

    Really, the only argument to make for having two world champions at this point is house show tours.

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    That could be easily solved. Unify the US/IC and WWE/World heavyweight so you only have the WWE and IC. Book the IC like it was booked in the Bret/Perfect/Davey Boy/Piper/Savage/Steamboat etc days with no joke runs and guys having to really earn a shot at it, and the IC title could easily main event house shows in time. The only reason it can't now is because the existence of so many singles titles makes it look like shit.

    Having said that there is no reason to keep the WHC around. It doesn't feel anything like a big deal anymore. It is less credible than the IC title was in 1991/1992.

    If you split the tours evenly still so that a few top guys are always on the show you don't always need a world champ wrestling anyway. People don't go to house shows to see title changes, they go to see live wrestling and see some of their favourites

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    Something just isn't quite connecting with Sheamus I agree. He's someone I really want to get behind (especially at the start of his face turn last year), but it isn't quite happening. I think it is partly due do how his character has been written. He's a consistently very good worker, and at times amazing (he's 2 out of 3 falls match with Bryan is still my favourite match of the year), but promo wise, while he's comfortable on the mic, he doesn't really draw you in. Still don't think he's far away though from all the pieces falling into place for him though.

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    Industry put it best; Once he gets on the mic and starts trying to make fun of people, it comes across as very very unlikable. Rock could make fun of someone in anyway he damn wanted and they ate it up, same with Austin. Even Cena with his mixed reaction doesn't give off the same dickish vibe that Sheamus gives off. His comedic timing and delivery is awful too.

    He just needs to beat the living shit out of people by stomping on their heads, because amazingly he comes across a hundred times better than he does telling jokes on the mic.

    I hope WWE rectifies this because I can't be assed putting up with another face getting booed all the time which is where we will end up. Its gotten beyond boring now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    If Randy Orton has 'it', I want Sheamus to stay as far away from 'it' as possible.

    Unfortunately for Sheamus I just don't think he gets over well on the mic. His Irish accent is a bit boy-ish - he could do with sounding more like Finlay. I think his promos really hold him back. He is a superb worker though.
    When Finlay talks, I can take him serious. When Sheamus talks, I think of the Lucky Charms leprechaun.

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    Sheamus was rushed into the picture, which was great when it happened, he was legit looking and I love me some shock moments. But this title reign shows his problem as a face, they want him to be a fighting champion, which is good enough, but he's just been written as really bland aside from "I wanna kick your arse." There's no story to anything with him. He just wants to beat people up. Which is a heel mentality, but he's a face because he smiles and has goofy lines and has problems with heels. It just doesn't mesh. If he was a heel, this character would work. I don't mean it in the way that everyone is better as a heel, blah blah blah, I mean it as this character he has, the Celtic Warrior that will always step up to fight, that's better for a heel.

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    It's silly to think he was ready to begin with. Agree with Austin here

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    He needs to absolutely flatten Big Show. Brogue Kick him, then let him get up and Brogue kick him again. Then again. Then stand on his unconscious body and raise the belt with blood pouring down his face. Thats how Sheamus should be done.

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    I always thought he was a better heel...he sucks as a face to me..

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    He should just be more aggressive and never talk. They are trying to turn him into another Cena, but he would better as a heel Orton-type. Silent and deadly, like an Irish fart.

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    I think The Main Event hit on the real problem with Sheamus, although he didn't focus on it. Sheamus doesn't have any storyline behind him. Sheamus is just there, his opponents are just there. I have absolutely no problem with the fighting champion who just loves beating people up. Heck, when Finlay turned face towards the end of his run, it worked out great for him: the guy who just loves to fight. So I have absolutely no problem with Sheamus as the ass-kicking face. Heck, I don't even really mind his jokes half the time.

    What I do mind, however, is that he's gone from one bland non-storyline-driven feud to the next. It has made his feuds boring because there's no depth to them beyond "bad guy wants title, good guy wants to fight." If WWE creative would actually write an interesting storyline for him, maybe we wouldn't have the problem with him that we do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC View Post
    I think The Main Event hit on the real problem with Sheamus, although he didn't focus on it. Sheamus doesn't have any storyline behind him. Sheamus is just there, his opponents are just there. I have absolutely no problem with the fighting champion who just loves beating people up. Heck, when Finlay turned face towards the end of his run, it worked out great for him: the guy who just loves to fight. So I have absolutely no problem with Sheamus as the ass-kicking face. Heck, I don't even really mind his jokes half the time.

    What I do mind, however, is that he's gone from one bland non-storyline-driven feud to the next. It has made his feuds boring because there's no depth to them beyond "bad guy wants title, good guy wants to fight." If WWE creative would actually write an interesting storyline for him, maybe we wouldn't have the problem with him that we do now.
    Better with words than I in this instance. Exactly my point.

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    Sheamus needs to learn how to take his time in the ring.

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    Sheamus is 100 better as heel, he is so stale with his current super face character.
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    Default Re: Austin Says Sheamus Not ready

    Shemus in ring skills have really grown since his debut. He just hasn't got the personality yet to be the next big thing.

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    Darn Right he isnt. IN ring he is dope brother but his charisma is in the Negatives brother...WOOH!

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