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    Default Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    This isn't a TNA vs. WWE thread. There's another thread for that.

    When Ken Anderson won the TNA World Title at Genesis 2011, I swore off of TNA for over a year. And I stuck to it. I didn't watch anything of Impact until into 2012. Recently, the company has drawn me back in. It's generally agreed upon that in recent months, TNA has been putting out good wrestling television and consistently good PPV events.....

    But how long will it last? TNA has a history of doing things really well for a indeterminate amount of time before doing something that cause it all to blow up in everyone's faces.

    So what do you think? Has TNA finally gotten its act together for the long haul? Or are we all just waiting before we end up facepalming over this company all over again?

    And honestly, let's leave the whole "LOL 1.1 RATING" thing out of this. It's never going to change. Everyone knows it. Move on.
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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    This all depends on where they go from here, because some reports say that Hogan wants the title off Aries as soon as possible. If that happens, then no, TNA is still Hogan's little playground. If not, maybe we'll see. It's too early to call how this is going to look long-term.

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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    No, it's TNA.

    But seriously, only time will tell. This entire year has been nothing but quality. Its up to management if they want to regress or progress.

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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    Who knows... Wait and see... Until then, just enjoy the ride... That's all I got.

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    It's too early to tell I think. They need consistency for a longer period of time before I have more faith. Hogan worries me. Bischoff worries me. As much as I loved them in WWE, Angle, Hardy, & RVD should stay away from main eventing and world title pictures. I hate non funny Angle, Hardy & RVD just seem like they don't belong.

    If they continue pushing original talent they have a shot. Honestly the only guy from the E I like in TNA currently is Bubba and he plays his role perfectly. He's a great heel that pretty much puts everyone over.

    I'd like to see more of the guys I had no clue about in the X division tournament. I would love to see more of that Jigsaw guy. Yeah I don't watch indies so I don't know everyone.

    For me to make TNA great here is what has to happen.

    1. No Hogan or Sting. Its time to hang it up. Advise from the back if you like. I dont need to see you on camera.
    2. Keep it up with Biscoff off TV
    3. Keep Dixie off TV (Not just because of the AJ angle)
    4. Lose Brooke
    5. Don't put the title on Storm or big names from WWE in the near future. TNA talent only (Roode, Aries, Joe, AJ, Daniels if he had a better gimmick)
    6. More Joseph Parks, More Eric Young
    7. More fresh faces like in the last ppv. It was very refreshing.

    For me personally all those things would make TNA near perfect but its just one man's opinion

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    1. This as a guy that can't stand Hogan....he's doing fine in the role he has right now. He's been fine lately.

    2. Bischoff I thought was gone for real, so....check.

    3. Dixie shouldn't be on TV except for major announcements about the company from the business side. REAL major announcements, not the ones she hypes up every 20 days.

    4. Agreed.

    5. Storm isn't a TNA talent? WWE guys have a place in the company, they come from the biggest company in the business, if someone like Kurt wins the title and someone wins it off him, it's a good sized deal.

    6. No, Yes

    7. Agreed, but I wouldn't do it often. Gutcheck is good, keep it up with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bang Bang View Post
    It's too early to tell I think. They need consistency for a longer period of time before I have more faith. Hogan worries me. Bischoff worries me. As much as I loved them in WWE, Angle, Hardy, & RVD should stay away from main eventing and world title pictures. I hate non funny Angle, Hardy & RVD just seem like they don't belong.

    If they continue pushing original talent they have a shot. Honestly the only guy from the E I like in TNA currently is Bubba and he plays his role perfectly. He's a great heel that pretty much puts everyone over.

    I'd like to see more of the guys I had no clue about in the X division tournament. I would love to see more of that Jigsaw guy. Yeah I don't watch indies so I don't know everyone.

    For me to make TNA great here is what has to happen.

    1. No Hogan or Sting. Its time to hang it up. Advise from the back if you like. I dont need to see you on camera.
    2. Keep it up with Biscoff off TV
    3. Keep Dixie off TV (Not just because of the AJ angle)
    4. Lose Brooke
    5. Don't put the title on Storm or big names from WWE in the near future. TNA talent only (Roode, Aries, Joe, AJ, Daniels if he had a better gimmick)
    6. More Joseph Parks, More Eric Young
    7. More fresh faces like in the last ppv. It was very refreshing.

    For me personally all those things would make TNA near perfect but its just one man's opinion
    I agree with everything except more Jospeh Parks. I really hate that gimmick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Main Event View Post

    5. Storm isn't a TNA talent?


    6. No, Yes
    Never said Storm wasn't. I just personally don't like him

    Really??? I just can't see how anyone doesn't find EY funny and wrestling always needs a funny guy, it can't all be serious all the time. But alas opinions vary.

    I agree with WWE guys enhancing but for the time being I am enjoying them out of the limelight and would like it to last a little longer. Hogan won't allow that I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Crippler View Post
    This all depends on where they go from here, because some reports say that Hogan wants the title off Aries as soon as possible. If that happens, then no, TNA is still Hogan's little playground. If not, maybe we'll see. It's too early to call how this is going to look long-term.
    Aries reign won't be a long one. But as long as Roode gets the title back, it's not a problem IMO.

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    I have watched TNA off and on since 2004 but I never stick with it because it becomes so unbearable at times. The last time I watched an episode of impact was last year when they had that 40 minute opening promo and I said fuck off to that and changed the channel.

    I may check impact out this Thursday though because of all the praise I have seen the company get recently and I'm happy to hear that they finally decided to focus on new/young/homegrown wrestlers for a change like Austin Aries and Bobby Roode instead of Sting and old man Hogan.

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    No, TNA has not fixed itself - in my opinion, they have gotten incredibly shallow as to who gets the title and spotlight as of late. I used to think it was a better alternative because of the amount of talent that was pushed but ever since Hogan stepped in, he has made it his own puppet show. At this rate, they will never be "competition" to WWE. The direction TNA is heading is certainly making me go back to watching WWE because of the AJ/Punk/Bryan storyline.


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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    Another way to fix TNA: Just disband the KO tag division. You don't have enough women on the roster to justify both titles, and you've got a man holding one of the belts when your network won't let you show man-on-woman violence.

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    As others have said, it's impossible to tell at this point.

    TNA as it stands is in my opinion an excellent wrestling show. Storylines progress logically, there isn't too much stupid shit (the Claire stuff aside), the roster is talented and hard working, wrestlers are given freedom in promos and in the ring to be themselves, and the X-Division is finally being given the respect it deserves.

    However, the one big issue for TNA is that their ratings haven't increased to match the quality of the product currently being put out. Based on that I would wager a guess that their PPVs are still not very successful in terms of purchases either. If that doesn't change then I can see them reverting to their past bad form in order to try and pop ratings. We all know how obsessed with ratings Hogan and Bischoff are - going live hasn't had the desired impact (no pun intended), so their next step will be one of two things IMO:

    a) Take the show on the road permanently to boost brand awareness across the country and give the show a fresh feel.

    b) Take the company in a totally different direction which most of us will hate.

    Based on TNA's history I'd say B is more likely. One of TNA's problems is that they have been so bad in the past it has put people off entirely. You only have to look in the thread about TNA having a better product than WWE to see plenty of people still have their perception of TNA dictated by the tragic state of the company in 2010. Plenty of people found the product so awful (and it really was) that they gave up on it there and then. Until TNA finds a way to get those people to give them another chance they'll stay very much stuck at the 1.0 mark, which is their core fanbase, the guys and gals that watch the show no matter how vomit-inducing the content is.

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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Crippler View Post
    Another way to fix TNA: Just disband the KO tag division. You don't have enough women on the roster to justify both titles, and you've got a man holding one of the belts when your network won't let you show man-on-woman violence.
    They should be hiring more wrestlers and using the ones they have better, to re-establish the fact that they have a superior women's division, if you want them to "fix" it.

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    It's not TNA's fault they aren't seeing a spike (pun intended) in ratings the show is as good as it's ever been and is stuck in the 1.1 range so the onus is on the casual fan to tune in or they will continue to be stuck in the same rating area it does not reflect poorly on the show because as I said the show is the best it's been and since I've been watching the company on Spike TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djm View Post
    And honestly, let's leave the whole "LOL 1.1 RATING" thing out of this. It's never going to change. Everyone knows it. Move on.
    What part of this sentence in the DJM's opening statement do you guys not understand

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    Right now, I would say there's a bandaid on the wound but, it hasn't begun to heal yet. If they can keep it up for a majority of the calender year, then I think they may have turned the page.

    Until then, I'll watch and enjoy the good stuff but, I won't keep my expectations high.
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    I don't see why you wouldn't discuss the ratings when talking about whether TNA is "fixed" or not as it's a big part of the criteria for success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BARCELONA View Post
    I don't see why you wouldn't discuss the ratings when talking about whether TNA is "fixed" or not as it's a big part of the criteria for success.
    Arrested Development is hailed as one of the funniest sitcoms.....it was a ratings failure.

    Beastie Boys greatest album is considered by many to be Paul's Boutique, a commercial flop.

    Entertainment doesn't need to have high ratings in order to be considered great. Besides the question posed was is TNA fixed, meaning has it gotten better than it past self which was horrible. If you judge whether or not something is better by its ratings you are going about it the wrong way. Avatar was a commercial success. Most people I know see it as a shit movie myself included

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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    I mean they're certainly giving consistent pushes to guys the internet likes while Bischoff and Hogan have been marginalized on screen. If that's all it takes for you to think they're "fixed," then sure.

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    They are definately headed in the right direction. I think that they are using the WWE guys, TNA vets and rookies in a very good way right now. The push seems to be for the homegrown veterans and the rookies while the former WWE guys are there just to remind you that TNA can attract that level of guy (recognition wise) to their roster. I do think they need to establish their rookies a bit more before they showcase them on PPV like they did with Destination X but that was a minor issue for me. I've always felt that wrestling fans tend to be a little too critical of TNA. While TNA has had it's bad moments, so has every wrestling company that ever existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bang Bang View Post
    Arrested Development is hailed as one of the funniest sitcoms.....it was a ratings failure.

    Beastie Boys greatest album is considered by many to be Paul's Boutique, a commercial flop.

    Entertainment doesn't need to have high ratings in order to be considered great. Besides the question posed was is TNA fixed, meaning has it gotten better than it past self which was horrible. If you judge whether or not something is better by its ratings you are going about it the wrong way. Avatar was a commercial success. Most people I know see it as a shit movie myself included
    Never watched it so don't know.

    But yeah, sure, ratings aren't everything. But in terms of TNA being fixed, ratings have to play a factor because unless ratings improve there's every chance the stuff we're all falling ourselves over to praise will disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BARCELONA View Post
    Never watched it so don't know.

    But yeah, sure, ratings aren't everything. But in terms of TNA being fixed, ratings have to play a factor because unless ratings improve there's every chance the stuff we're all falling ourselves over to praise will disappear.
    Ok I'll make this easier to understand.

    Ratings isn't a factor because even if a product changes for the good after being pure shit it doesn't reflect in the ratings. Changes like that take time. TNA has just recently turned it around. Yet everyone goes "The ratings the ratings herp derp." this hasn't been happening for a consistently long time.

    Regardless of all the attitude era hate on this board it took 2 years for the WWE to turn it around and beat WCW in the ratings. They were putting on a great product way prior to their ratings improving so stop bringing ratings up. It is too early and doesn't mean anything in relation to this thread

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    You don't have to make it "easier to understand" because I get your point.

    I contest that ratings are a factor in assessing whether TNA is fixed. Reason being Hogan, Bischoff and Dixie have all been shown to act and react based upon them. Thus if ratings do not improve there's every chance things will change.

    If you don't like me talking about it then frankly, tough shit.

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    Default Re: Has TNA finally fixed itself?

    I don't agree, because TNA has tried a lot of different things since getting a timeslot on Spike TV and there has been essentially no progress. They have their audience and a good number of people that call themselves "wrestling fans" will never watch them, regardless of the reason. That can't and won't change through any of their own doing.

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